With the greatest respect to you, and I have a lot of sympathy with
your ideas of GUI's using browser / JS technology, your comments on
Java are bordering on FUD. I also don't understand the general
anti-Java diatribe - it's a library, and it has its uses - why treat
it as somehow different to any other library. It's still the best
JIT'ed executable that runs cross-platform; links to JACK on Linux,
Windows and Mac; allows sub-5ms latency; and lets me drop live-coded
fragments into the audio graph - then it gets interesting, but until
then JS is still playing catchup! :-)
On 21 November 2011 01:15, David Robillard wrote:
Source??? Last stats I saw showed Java installs not far behind Flash.
And if you take the "link your own VM" option (which is similar to
the suggestion re. webkit) it's irrelevant anyway.
> * Java is officially deprecated on Mac OS X.
hmm .. Java on Mac is actually looking rosier than it has in a long
time, now that development is taking place officially as part of
> * Java will never, ever be available by default on any Microsoft
That depends - lots of manufacturers install it by default.
> * Java is not included in the default installation of the overwhelming
Good! Too many distros install far too much by default. It's a
library, it's a dependency, and it's there if it's needed.
> * Java requires software installation of some variety (unless you're
Applets? God, no! :-) I've no problem with installation though. As
I said before, I don't necessarily see web-apps as the ultimate way
forward - I personally think the app-store model will hold out because
a) app-stores allow certain companies to keep their walled gardens,
and b) writing for the browser is always going to be writing to the
lowest common denominator.
> * Java recently has acquired a lot of legal questions making it not
Nothing that affects OpenJDK though.
> * There are many cutting edge modern browser implementations, and
A dinosaur that the others are still trying to catch up with, mind you!
> Regardless, if I may take the liberty of speaking for this community,
And I'll take the liberty of saying I think that's a daft attitude to
have! :-) If the application performs a function I need, then I'll
consider using it, regardless of what technology underlies it.
Best wishes, Neil
Neil C Smith
Artist : Technologist : Adviser
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