Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction

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Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 - 9:24 pm

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Hi,

On Wednesday 08 September 2010 22:15:33 Paul Davis wrote:

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Here is my shot:

(Speaking in terms of
http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qpalette.html#ColorRole-enum because thats the=
=20
toolkit I know...)

The discussion started with faders showing the value by color. Could also b=
e=20
used by meters.

Muted/off: Window-color (that is the normal background of windows)
Really low: Shadow
Low: Dark
Middle: Light
High: Highlight (which would be the alarm color)

I did a quick test with ffado-mixer, the first screenshot is the current ve=
rsion=20
with black-blue-green-yellow-red, the second is the window-shadow-dark-ligh=
t-
highlight version:
http://positron.physik.uni-halle.de/~arnold/fadercolors-green_yellow_red...
http://positron.physik.uni-halle.de/~arnold/fadercolors-system_colors.pn...

In the second case I think a small 1px border around each "fader" would be=
=20
appropriate. Have to think about that.

Now to the ardour-specific questions:

Muted could be visualized just by graying out the whole=20
track/channel/fader/meter or by de-saturating it.
Rec-enabled would be a border in the Highlight color.
And if its about toggle-buttons that should increase visibility when=20
activated, these could be colored in the Highlight color or the Base color=
=20
(used for input-widgets).

Something needing immediate attention could be marked by blinking in the=20
Highlight color. Or by having a blinking 5px border in the Highlight color.

Generally there are several ways to make something stand out:

- Color it to stand out. Which is what the Highlight color is for.
- Make it big.
- Give it space.
- Make it stand out with a simple 3D effect like a raised/sunken border or=
a=20
shadow.

The last three don't require special colors.

I know there are special apps that need so many colors that the system pale=
tte=20
is not enough. I know ardour is the prime example there.
But I don't understand why apps like puredata don't follow the systems=20
defaults? Black objects on white background stand out much to much when my=
=20
laptop is trimmed for live-foh usage where the normal "Text on Base" colors=
=20
would be "Wine Red on Black". If it simply used that colors as provided by =
the=20
system/toolkit, it would blend in perfectly...

Have fun,

Arnold

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[LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gordon JC Pearce, (Tue Sep 7, 6:20 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Niels Mayer, (Thu Sep 16, 12:18 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Thu Sep 16, 6:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Thu Sep 16, 8:46 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Tue Sep 7, 6:23 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Chris Cannam, (Tue Sep 7, 7:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gordon JC Pearce, (Tue Sep 7, 7:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Chris Cannam, (Tue Sep 7, 8:18 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Jens M Andreasen, (Thu Sep 9, 2:15 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Tue Sep 7, 6:25 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 7, 7:11 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Tue Sep 7, 7:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, hermann, (Wed Sep 8, 7:21 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Folderol, (Tue Sep 7, 6:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Tue Sep 7, 6:38 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 7, 7:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gordon JC Pearce, (Tue Sep 7, 7:58 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 7, 8:15 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Loki Davison, (Fri Sep 10, 12:37 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Fri Sep 10, 12:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, hermann, (Fri Sep 10, 4:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Sat Sep 11, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gordon JC Pearce, (Sat Sep 11, 8:45 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Sun Sep 12, 10:39 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Johannes Kroll, (Tue Sep 14, 4:27 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Tue Sep 14, 4:46 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Wed Sep 15, 12:27 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Thorsten Wilms, (Sun Sep 12, 11:35 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Sun Sep 12, 12:17 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, hermann, (Sat Sep 11, 6:23 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Sun Sep 12, 10:29 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, hermann, (Tue Sep 14, 3:07 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 14, 10:44 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Loki Davison, (Sun Sep 12, 12:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Mon Sep 13, 1:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Mon Sep 13, 2:55 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Mon Sep 13, 2:38 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Mon Sep 13, 2:45 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 14, 8:49 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Wed Sep 15, 2:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Thu Sep 16, 8:52 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Thu Sep 16, 3:01 pm)
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Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Igor Brkic, (Wed Sep 15, 7:39 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Wed Sep 15, 10:32 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Wed Sep 15, 10:56 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Tue Sep 14, 10:03 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Mon Sep 13, 8:14 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Thorsten Wilms, (Tue Sep 14, 7:14 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 14, 10:27 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gordon JC Pearce, (Tue Sep 7, 7:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, hermann, (Tue Sep 7, 6:29 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Tue Sep 7, 6:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Folderol, (Tue Sep 7, 6:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, hermann, (Tue Sep 7, 6:42 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Arnold Krille, (Tue Sep 7, 10:01 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Sep 8, 8:36 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Andrew Bryant, (Wed Sep 8, 2:36 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Arnold Krille, (Wed Sep 8, 5:19 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Sep 8, 7:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Arnold Krille, (Wed Sep 8, 8:02 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Paul Davis, (Wed Sep 8, 8:15 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Arnold Krille, (Wed Sep 8, 9:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Arnold Krille, (Wed Sep 8, 9:38 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Wed Sep 8, 10:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Sep 8, 8:19 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Arnold Krille, (Wed Sep 8, 8:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Sep 8, 10:38 pm)
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Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Alex, (Wed Sep 8, 9:38 pm)
[LAD] X behaviour (was Mouse/knob interaction), Andrew Bryant, (Thu Sep 9, 5:51 am)
Re: [LAD] X behaviour (was Mouse/knob interaction), Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Thu Sep 9, 6:11 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Sep 8, 10:28 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Sep 8, 3:36 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Andrew Bryant, (Wed Sep 8, 4:19 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Arnold Krille, (Wed Sep 8, 10:06 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, , (Tue Sep 7, 8:18 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, David Adler, (Tue Sep 7, 10:15 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Chris Cannam, (Tue Sep 7, 8:31 pm)
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Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 7, 8:35 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gordon JC Pearce, (Tue Sep 7, 8:51 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Tue Sep 7, 8:57 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Tue Sep 7, 11:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Folderol, (Wed Sep 8, 7:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Tim E. Real, (Tue Sep 7, 11:02 pm)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Olivier Guilyardi, (Wed Sep 8, 11:37 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, hermann, (Wed Sep 8, 5:30 am)
Re: [LAD] Mouse/knob interaction, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Sep 7, 6:27 pm)