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On Thursday 15 July 2010 01:14:45 Ralf Mardorf wrote:

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> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 00:46 +0200, fons@kokkinizita.net wrote:

> > Apart from that, it remains to be seen if *real* timing errors of

> > +/- 2 ms do 'destroy the groove'. To test this, make the same

> > recording

> >=20

> > - without jitter,

> > - with 1 ms jitter,

> > - with 2 ms jitter,

> > - with 3 ms jitter.

> >=20

> > and check if listeners are able to identify which is which,

> > or at least to put them into order.

> I know very gifted musicians who do like me and they always 'preach'

> that I should stop using modern computers and I don't know much averaged

> people. So the listeners in my flat for sure would be able to hear even

> failure that I'm unable to hear.

You really should do that test first before speculating about the outcome a=

nd=20

your audience.
You would expect Audiophiles to spot the "super sounding" denon cables by=20

listening, right? Yet a blind test showed the opposite. The test was to=20

identify which audio take was played with denon-cables, el-cheapo cables fr=

om=20

walmart and a bended cloth-hanger. If they where as good as they claimed, t=

he=20

denon-cable should get hits with probability significantly better then 1/3,=

=20

otherwise its just luck.

Guess what the outcome was: There was a significant hit: But they spotted t=

he=20

cloth-hanger as the denon-cable. Thats what real experts do...
Do the listening test with as many people as possible and then show the=20

results. And only afterwards start the speculations what the reason and the=

=20

effects might be. (Thats called science btw.)
Have fun,
Arnold
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