Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach)

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To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@...>
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Date: Monday, March 22, 2010 - 2:50 pm

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Hey Ralf!
I do not think you understood me. I am speaking about automating parameters
of various synths. If you want the cutoff frequency to change or wabble and
at the same time have the resonance move and all of that you want to feed
into a controller that would LFO all that against the volume of another
sound so that both come in and out - all of this takes lots of automation to
get to the result. How can this be possible without automation I do not know
- only if you ask several people to help you and train them to perform
automations in real time.

Louigi.

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It is a different situation when you know that EVERYONE goes through this. =
It is an absolutely different
story when you know for a fact that users of another operating system have =
good working solutions of the
problem you are having. And so not having automation is a bit weird. As sho=
wn above, automation is
essential in certain very widely spread types of electronic music when you =
need to turn many knobs at
the same time to achieve the result. Asking 15 of your friends to help you =
do this during recording is
a bit too much I think though it might make for a good record into the book=
of records.

It's not true that this kind of automation really is done by heavy mixi=
ng. Yes, e.g. when I used my Atari ST and Cubase I had a Window with MIDI S=
ysEx controllers e.g. for my Oberheim Matrix-1000. A separated MIDI port an=
d that it was. This kind of automation is missing for Linux. But I wish to =
have some examples off all that music that reportedly makes a lot of usage =
of automation for the mixer. There isn't much of that music. Doing this=
is unusual, it very often is done by inexperienced musicians and hobby eng=
ineers because they guess it's the way to do it like this, once they ar=
e more experienced they won't do it by automation any more.

Ralf
Hey Ralf!I do not think you understoo=
d me. I am speaking about automating parameters of various synths. If you w=
ant the cutoff frequency to change or wabble and at the same time have the =
resonance move and all of that you want to feed into a controller that woul=
d LFO all that against the volume of another sound so that both come in and=
out - all of this takes lots of automation to get to the result. How can t=
his be possible without automation I do not know - only if you ask several =
people to help you and train them to perform automations in real time.
Louigi.

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Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), alex stone, (Fri Mar 19, 9:09 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), rosea grammostola, (Fri Mar 19, 9:47 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), alex stone, (Fri Mar 19, 9:57 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), rosea grammostola, (Fri Mar 19, 10:07 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Mar 19, 11:53 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Mar 19, 7:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Tim E. Real, (Fri Mar 19, 7:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Paul Davis, (Fri Mar 19, 8:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Mar 19, 9:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Mar 19, 9:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Mar 19, 9:54 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Tim E. Real, (Sat Mar 20, 1:30 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), alex stone, (Sat Mar 20, 8:06 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), rosea grammostola, (Sat Mar 20, 10:36 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Louigi Verona, (Sat Mar 20, 9:43 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Gene Heskett, (Sat Mar 20, 4:45 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Paul Davis, (Sat Mar 20, 8:19 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Gene Heskett, (Sun Mar 21, 12:05 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Louigi Verona, (Sat Mar 20, 7:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 2:56 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Louigi Verona, (Mon Mar 22, 2:50 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Harry Van Haaren, (Mon Mar 22, 4:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Louigi Verona, (Mon Mar 22, 3:02 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Louigi Verona, (Mon Mar 22, 6:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 6:51 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), James Morris, (Tue Mar 23, 1:44 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Mar 23, 6:13 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Gene Heskett, (Tue Mar 23, 6:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), James Morris, (Thu Mar 25, 12:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), rosea grammostola, (Thu Mar 25, 10:45 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), rosea grammostola, (Sun Mar 28, 6:56 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Mar 23, 7:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Nick Copeland, (Mon Mar 22, 3:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 4:36 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 4:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Jens M Andreasen, (Mon Mar 22, 4:25 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Nick Copeland, (Mon Mar 22, 5:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 5:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Nick Copeland, (Mon Mar 22, 9:21 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 9:56 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Nick Copeland, (Mon Mar 22, 10:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Mar 23, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Nick Copeland, (Tue Mar 23, 8:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Mar 23, 9:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Nick Copeland, (Tue Mar 23, 8:58 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Paul Davis, (Tue Mar 23, 10:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Mar 23, 6:02 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Mar 22, 3:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Folderol, (Sat Mar 20, 11:19 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Arnold Krille, (Fri Mar 19, 8:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Tim E. Real, (Fri Mar 19, 8:51 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Paul Davis, (Fri Mar 19, 9:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Philipp, (Fri Mar 19, 12:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), alex stone, (Fri Mar 19, 12:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Philipp, (Fri Mar 19, 11:32 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), rosea grammostola, (Fri Mar 19, 9:14 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Mar 19, 9:56 pm)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), alex stone, (Fri Mar 19, 11:52 am)
Re: [LAD] automation on Linux (modular approach), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Mar 19, 11:58 am)