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>> It is a different situation when you know that EVERYONE goes through this.

>> It is an absolutely different

>> story when you know for a fact that users of another operating system have

>> good working solutions of the

>> problem you are having. And so not having automation is a bit weird. As

>> shown above, automation is

>> essential in certain very widely spread types of electronic music when you

>> need to turn many knobs at

>> the same time to achieve the result. Asking 15 of your friends to help you

>> do this during recording is

>> a bit too much I think though it might make for a good record into the

>> book of records.

>>

>

> It's not true that this kind of automation really is done by heavy mixing.

> Yes, e.g. when I used my Atari ST and Cubase I had a Window with MIDI SysEx

> controllers e.g. for my Oberheim Matrix-1000. A separated MIDI port and that

> it was. This kind of automation is missing for Linux. But I wish to have

> some examples off all that music that reportedly makes a lot of usage of

> automation for the mixer. There isn't much of that music. Doing this is

> unusual, it very often is done by inexperienced musicians and hobby

> engineers because they guess it's the way to do it like this, once they are

> more experienced they won't do it by automation any more.

>

> Ralf

>

Hey Ralf!

I do not think you understood me. I am speaking about automating parameters

of various synths. If you want the cutoff frequency to change or wabble and

at the same time have the resonance move and all of that you want to feed

into a controller that would LFO all that against the volume of another

sound so that both come in and out - all of this takes lots of automation to

get to the result. How can this be possible without automation I do not know

- only if you ask several people to help you and train them to perform

automations in real time.
Louigi.
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It is a different situation when you know that EVERYONE goes through this. =

It is an absolutely different

story when you know for a fact that users of another operating system have =

good working solutions of the

problem you are having. And so not having automation is a bit weird. As sho=

wn above, automation is

essential in certain very widely spread types of electronic music when you =

need to turn many knobs at

the same time to achieve the result. Asking 15 of your friends to help you =

do this during recording is

a bit too much I think though it might make for a good record into the book=

 of records.
It's not true that this kind of automation really is done by heavy mixi=

ng. Yes, e.g. when I used my Atari ST and Cubase I had a Window with MIDI S=

ysEx controllers e.g. for my Oberheim Matrix-1000. A separated MIDI port an=

d that it was. This kind of automation is missing for Linux. But I wish to =

have some examples off all that music that reportedly makes a lot of usage =

of automation for the mixer. There isn't much of that music. Doing this=

 is unusual, it very often is done by inexperienced musicians and hobby eng=

ineers because they guess it's the way to do it like this, once they ar=

e more experienced they won't do it by automation any more.
Ralf

Hey Ralf!I do not think you understoo=

d me. I am speaking about automating parameters of various synths. If you w=

ant the cutoff frequency to change or wabble and at the same time have the =

resonance move and all of that you want to feed into a controller that woul=

d LFO all that against the volume of another sound so that both come in and=

 out - all of this takes lots of automation to get to the result. How can t=

his be possible without automation I do not know - only if you ask several =

people to help you and train them to perform automations in real time.

Louigi.
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