> Interesting stuff, espcially when you consider that but a week or 2
> ago, another chap from a university, who was unaware of the
> implications of the GPL, got nailed for not releasing his code as per
> a strict definition of the GPL, and took a lot of sustained abuse for
> it as a result. He's moved quickly to remedy this and asked for help,
> not wanting to let ignorance of the facts get in the way of doing the
> right thing.
>
> In contrast, a commercial company has simply swiped plugins,
> themselves under a GPL or derivative, and ignored the licensing
> requirements contained within, making no reference to the authors, and
> or assigning credit within the rules. And it certainly looks like they
> weren't planning to do so until it became public, and they had little
> choice. Far from being a 'sweetheart" the owner has got caught with
> his hand in the p2p equivalent of the software till, and has issued
> soothing noise to all and sundry, in an effort to keep the potentially
> unprofitable publicity to a minimum. And for the same reasons that our
> newest colleague got shoved down his throat, now it seems all is
> warmth and light, because "A.J" says so.
>
> Why didn't the "wonderful" Mr. AJ contact the authors first, and
> discuss what he planned to do with them before he simply took the
> software, for profit? Or at least notified them, and credited them
> before he started counting his money, even out of common decency?
>
> Call me cynical, and the plugin authors certainly have the last say,
> but there seems to be a rather large dose of hypocrisy going on
> here....
>
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> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Michael Fisher wrote:
>
>> Everybody,
>>
>> Good. I wasn't really trying to get Beat Kangz in trouble or anything
>> like that. More than anything I was just disappointed to see that these
>> LADSPA plugins were being distributed with their software with not a
>> single mention of credit to the actual developers. As a computer
>> programmer myself I understand the work involved in creating code. The
>> way I found out about this was me running the program from terminal and
>> with the mac Console open to submit some bug reports to them. That
>> reminds me, I still need to do that.
>>
>> I actually know one of the staff members at beat kangz, so I really am
>> not interested in causing trouble. Credit due, where credit deserved is
>> all. And I figured the LADSPA developers should be aware of what was
>> going on. I suppose it's not really that big of a deal, because say I
>> had those plugins already installed on my system, then the Beat Kangz
>> software would only be searching for and loading them. My problem was
>> that their installer included them, which would be distribution of GPL'd
>> software.
>>
>> That would be pretty awesome if they decided to open development.
>> Really, it would only make their products much stronger. If their using
>> LADSPA plugins, I can only assume that development is taking place in a
>> Linux/*nix type environment as they are obviously familiar with Linux
>> Audio stuff. Wouldn't surprise me if the actual hardware "box" is
>> running an embedded linux of some sort.
>>
>> On the lighter side... The Virtual Beat Thang is in my opinion pretty
>> nice. A few bugs here and there (the thing just came out), but really
>> not a bad peace of work. Great drum sounds. I have it working with
>> jack-osx which makes it even more powerful. Might as well just make it
>> natively support jack in my opinion.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> Ronald Stewart wrote:
>>
>>> GPL Violation Alert! - I talked with the President of Beat Kangz today
>>> his name is A.J. and he is a sweetheart and his head is on straight.
>>> He is currently going to work on an official statement and he wants to
>>> embrace and thank the developers and give the authors credit on their
>>> software and materials moving forward. Additionally, Beat Kangz is
>>> interested in opening up development with authors to make Beat Kangz
>>> even better including funding open source development and projects.
>>>
>>> I think the hiccup is that they didn't know how to properly
>>> thank/engage in regards to GPL and such. It's sounds like more of a
>>> noob thing and definitely not a jerk thing. Let's give these guys the
>>> benefit of the doubt because their heads are on stragiht.
>>>
>>> Stay tuned.
>>>
>>> Much Love.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Ronald Stewart
>>> Creative Director
>>> Trinity Audio Group Inc.
>>> 9854 National Blvd. #322
>>> Los Angeles CA 90034
>>> 310-733-9285
>>>
ronaldjstewart@gmail.com
>>>
www.indamixx.com
>>>
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