Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness

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To: Fons Adriaensen <fons@...>
Cc: Linux Audio Developers <linux-audio-dev@...>, JACK Developers <jack-devel@...>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 8:05 am

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"MarcO'Chapeau" writes:

> On Sun, 17 May 2009 13:11:23 +0200, Fons Adriaensen

All features that jackdbus offers can be added without dbus. Using dbus
was and still is the best way. It will be the best until there is better
reusable model invented. Or if someone donates (development time) to
implement such object model. Most important thing missing in jackd is
the log file. Then you have other missing features:
* no way several app to control single jack server. One needs to adopt it.
* no runtime discovery of jack settings
* no hierarchical settings file
* complex patchbay API that results in complicated code in patchbay apps
* multithread (for jack1 realtime too) threading model. (GUI) control
patchbay app should be allowed to be single threaded and not required
to handle graph change events in a realtime context.

>> Dbus assumes there is a local login, without that

ATM headless and multiserver setups are not covered by jackdbus. This
*can* be fixed with dbus model.

Packagers tha have made the packages should have read this before
enabling dbus:

http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/JackDbusPackaging

Maybe they did. I dont see why you Fons are attacking jackdbus because of
packaging not matching your needs.

=2D-=20
Nedko Arnaudov

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[LAD] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sat May 16, 10:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, MarcO'Chapeau, (Sun May 17, 7:51 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 9:32 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Christian, (Sun May 17, 10:26 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, drew Roberts, (Sun May 17, 3:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Christian, (Sun May 17, 3:46 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, MarcO'Chapeau, (Sun May 17, 10:20 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 11:20 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 25, 3:54 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, MarcO'Chapeau, (Sun May 17, 11:44 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 8:05 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 12:26 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Sampo Savolainen, (Sun May 17, 12:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 9:08 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Stéphane Letz, (Sun May 17, 7:36 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 10:51 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 11:40 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, drew Roberts, (Sun May 17, 4:14 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 1:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 2:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Sun May 17, 1:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 4:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 5:13 pm)
Re: [LAD] more jack/qjackctl madness : some comments, Stéphane Letz, (Sun May 17, 5:49 pm)
Re: [LAD] more jack/qjackctl madness : some comments, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 10:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness : some com..., Krzysztof Foltman, (Mon May 18, 9:50 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Sun May 17, 4:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Sun May 17, 4:46 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 9:06 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 8:12 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, alex stone, (Mon May 18, 9:23 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 9:52 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Jan Weil, (Mon May 18, 9:48 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, drew Roberts, (Mon May 18, 12:07 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 12:14 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon May 18, 1:46 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 2:36 pm)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 9:57 am)
Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Stéphane Letz, (Sun May 17, 9:18 am)