[LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

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Hi everyone,

and interesting thread has been going on the olpc devel list.
It would be interesting to get your comments on one
of the statements that were posted there (I'll
leave you to check the thread on the list archives
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/).

This particular e-mail goes (in response to me asking why they
were complaining about alsa and asking for OSS:

"OSS in general, or OSS on Linux? He did say "OSS 4", which is
the current version of the API. Solaris and all *BSD use it,
along with random SysV-like things. As far as sound on the
UNIX-like platforms goes, OSS is the standard. Probably it
ought to be proposed for the next POSIX/UNIX standard.

You can read Hannu's take on the matter in his blog. This
entry is particularly informative, but note that the code
has since been released under the GPL.
http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5

More on the ALSA defects:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/7/6/397

Basically we got swindled. ALSA has not been the utopia that
it was claimed to be. ALSA sucks. It's not even documented."

Hannu's text sometimes reads as propaganda. But it would be
nice to hear the opinion of other developers. As far as I am concerned,
for about five years now I have not even looked at OSS anymore.
But should I reconsider?

Thanks

Victor

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Hi everyone,
 
and interesting thread has been going on the olpc
devel list.
It would be interesting to get your comments on
one
of the statements that were posted there
(I'll
leave you to check the thread on the list
archives
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/).
 
This particular e-mail goes (in response to me
asking why they
were complaining about alsa and asking for
OSS:
 
"OSS in general, or OSS on Linux? He did say "OSS 4", which isthe
current version of the API. Solaris and all *BSD use it,along with random
SysV-like things. As far as sound on theUNIX-like platforms goes, OSS is the
standard. Probably itought to be proposed for the next POSIX/UNIX
standard.You can read Hannu's take on the matter in his blog.
Thisentry is particularly informative, but note that the codehas since
been released under the GPL.http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5More on the ALSA
defects:http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/7/6/397Basically we
got swindled. ALSA has not been the utopia thatit was claimed to be. ALSA
sucks. It's not even documented."
 
Hannu's text sometimes reads as propaganda. But it
would be
nice to hear the opinion of other developers. As
far as I am concerned,
for about five years now I have not even looked at
OSS anymore.
But should I reconsider?
 
Thanks
 
Victor

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[LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), victor, (Sat Jan 19, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jay Vaughan, (Sun Jan 20, 9:28 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Dave Phillips, (Sun Jan 20, 1:25 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jay Vaughan, (Sun Jan 20, 1:46 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Dave Phillips, (Sun Jan 20, 2:09 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Albert Graef, (Sun Jan 20, 8:18 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jay Vaughan, (Mon Jan 21, 9:11 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Albert Graef, (Mon Jan 21, 3:51 pm)
Re: [LAD] midishare (was alsa and OSS (again?)), Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon Jan 21, 9:02 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Paul Davis, (Mon Jan 21, 1:45 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Sun Jan 20, 11:57 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jay Vaughan, (Mon Jan 21, 9:13 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon Jan 21, 8:56 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Albert Graef, (Mon Jan 21, 6:30 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon Jan 21, 8:54 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Albert Graef, (Mon Jan 21, 11:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Tue Jan 22, 1:32 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Albert Graef, (Tue Jan 22, 1:50 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Mon Jan 21, 9:18 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Paul Davis, (Tue Jan 22, 3:05 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Jan 23, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Tue Jan 22, 6:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), holborn, (Wed Jan 23, 3:06 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jussi Laako, (Thu Jan 24, 7:15 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jay Vaughan, (Wed Jan 23, 8:59 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Wed Jan 23, 5:07 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Lars Luthman, (Wed Jan 23, 3:13 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Paul Davis, (Wed Jan 23, 3:16 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Albert Graef, (Mon Jan 21, 11:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Tue Jan 22, 12:17 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jay Vaughan, (Mon Jan 21, 9:16 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Dave Phillips, (Sun Jan 20, 8:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jay Vaughan, (Mon Jan 21, 9:11 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Dave Phillips, (Mon Jan 21, 11:15 am)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Dave Phillips, (Sat Jan 19, 12:54 pm)
Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?), Jussi Laako, (Sat Jan 19, 2:44 pm)