Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression

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Date: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 9:53 pm

--- Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

> You need a low pass filter on the control signal. It

Agreed that you need the filter, but a 'brick wall' at
1Khz means that anything faster then 50ms or so as an
attack time (and there are legit uses for such), will
itself overshoot horrribly due to the gibb effect of
bandlimiting the control signal.

Resampling:

> No it doesn't. You want to absolutely avoid fast
changes in

desirable.

So, how do you implement a fast limiter if the fastest
time constant you can have is greater then 1ms?
Remember that to get to within 10 percent of the
computed gain will take multiple timeconstants....

I agree that a 'gain rider' poses no particular
problem at 44.1 or 48K, but even then lowpassing the
audio input to ensure you have the bandwidth to work
in would be a good idea (Think crash cymbal hit).

However for anything fast (and there are well
respected hardware compressors with attack TCs down to
100us), you need substantially more then 44.1 both in
the sidechain and in the gain cell and that means you
need resampling.

Regards, Dan.

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[linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Thu Oct 5, 3:50 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Alfons Adriaensen, (Thu Oct 5, 8:46 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Thu Oct 5, 1:44 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Thu Oct 5, 2:01 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Fri Oct 6, 2:25 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Thu Oct 5, 2:14 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Alfons Adriaensen, (Thu Oct 5, 3:29 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Fri Oct 6, 2:48 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Oct 5, 5:05 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Tue Oct 17, 9:18 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Dan Mills, (Tue Oct 17, 9:53 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Tue Oct 17, 10:28 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Jens M Andreasen, (Wed Oct 18, 5:23 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Wed Oct 18, 8:50 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 18, 11:33 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 18, 4:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Wed Oct 18, 11:21 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Steve Harris, (Wed Oct 18, 11:08 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Steve Harris, (Wed Oct 18, 10:42 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Paul Winkler, (Tue Oct 17, 11:00 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Steve Harris, (Wed Oct 18, 10:58 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Oct 17, 9:54 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Oct 17, 2:41 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, David Olofson, (Tue Oct 17, 4:51 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Oct 17, 5:05 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Dominique Michel, (Wed Oct 18, 3:40 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Steve Harris, (Wed Oct 18, 10:54 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Steve Harris, (Tue Oct 17, 12:06 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Alfons Adriaensen, (Fri Oct 6, 9:00 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Alfons Adriaensen, (Thu Oct 5, 2:22 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Fri Oct 6, 3:47 am)
Re: [linux-audio-dev] Paper on dynamic range compression, Andres Cabrera, (Fri Oct 6, 2:31 pm)