Re: [Consortium] [LAD] linuxaudio.org

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Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 1:17 pm

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Thorsten Wilms wrote:

IMHO restructuring linuxaudio.org (not only the website) affects
linux-audio-users as well as anyone here, but you're right of course.
We'll add an open PR position to linuxaudio.org jobs listing.

(I did not include linux-audio-announce in the email. There will
separate announcements: pending how the wiki performs in beta-test and
Ico keeping up with updating the consortium site.)

>> * http://wiki.linuxaudio.org

Well, we have lots of "members" - Half of which have their own
ALSA-settings or JACK-info page.

Generally open-source software is an extreme balance act between
communism and individual contributions. The linuxaudio website does not
reflect the community aspect. There is a long list of members and
(besides the mailing lists) little common representation.

People learn when writing pages, so we don't want to take away this
aspect by providing a central-authoritative source of information. Still
there's many common goals among the members. So the idea is to provide a
wiki-namespace grouped by task or interest, moderated by dedicated members.

We find the main cause of fragmentation (lad,lau,lac,portal,..) to be
the high setup-cost to contribute to existing websites.

> Regarding namespaces (nice example of coder speak not suitable for a

The idea is to reduce fragmentation, to move most content into a CMS
from where it can be cited, exported, put into context and eventually
consolidated.

As mentioned above, while the wiki is open to the public, there could
also be some /read-only/ wikipages (eg. a dedicated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namespace ) where well known members or
editors can publish, summarize, copy&paste articles.

besides, LAUs are no general-audience, are we? ;)

>> ..and we're not going to stop there.

old legacy issue: Conference vs. Consortium came up with LAC around the
same time: the consotrium owns the www. website, lac. is the conference.

I'm all for moving it to conference.linuxaudio.org and we'll keep a 301
redirect from lac. (the domain was used by previous conferences) Well,
it is up to the next conference organizer(s) (or their poster-designer):
http://conference.linuxaudio.org vs
http://[www.]lac2009[.linuxaudio].org etc.

>> * http://portal.linuxaudio.org, http://linuxaudio.org,

IMHO these should be accessible from a 'top-menu' or banner on
www.linuxaudio.org (maybe other vhosts as well).

>> We're urgently looking for 2-5 Content Maintainers (and Guitarists) so

hehe, if I had the time I'd host a design contest; make an upload form
and write a proper announce email that will make it on slashdot at x-mas.

>> Besides in the longer term we're looking for volunteers to summarize or

Concept wise apps is a subset of the wiki. At the moment it's
implemented the other way around.

The idea here is to also reduce the multitude of vhosts on
linuxaudio.org - At some point both apps and wiki could move to
http://linuxaudio.org/wiki/ and the vhosts would remain entry-points for
backwards compatibility.

Addressing web-design and host-management I'm pretty much stepping
beyond my responsibilities. Nevertheless it has been neglected for too
long and lots of legacy keeps adding to the confusion.

BTW. LAD silently celebrated it's 10's birthday in September
http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/1998/ (note the Finnish dates and wrong
ordering) - and linuxaudio.org will turn 5 on December 12 this year.

>> * http://lau.linuxaudio.org and http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org/

Well, we won't delete anything ;) We can mark it as "outdated" (or move
it to legacy.linuxaudio.org) and encourage Mr Jones to tag/link
interesting resource there from the wiki. Content that's worth updating
can be refreshed or imported..

so long,
robin
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