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| falktx|work | hmm drobilla changed ingen project syntax | 14:15 |
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| falktx|work | now it's 'main' instead of 'graph' | 14:16 |
| falktx|work | doesn't seem to be backwards compatible | 14:16 |
| falktx|work | http://git.drobilla.net/cgit.cgi/ingen.git/commit/?id=17ad0ca1ad23b336b0fa5952f42dfad95397fc47 | 14:16 |
| rgareus | that's a pity | 14:17 |
| rgareus | but given that there never was a ingen 1.0 format, it's fine. | 14:18 |
| rgareus | I recall a discussion here in search for a better name. | 14:19 |
| falktx|work | it's going to be shitty for mod now... :/ | 14:19 |
| rgareus | oh, right. you use the ingen format. | 14:19 |
| rgareus | are there plans to move back to ingen (for control chain) ? | 14:19 |
| falktx|work | well, not like this.. | 14:20 |
| falktx|work | tbh I regret starting the ingen thing last year now | 14:20 |
| rgareus | I suppose ingen could be changed to read old "graph" and write new "main" | 14:20 |
| falktx|work | mod needs to keep the old format now | 14:20 |
| falktx|work | there are shared pedalboards with the "old" ingen format out there | 14:21 |
| rgareus | falktx|work: how hard would it be to have MOD accept both but write the new? | 14:21 |
| falktx|work | a new release will be needed if we change this | 14:21 |
| rgareus | sure | 14:21 |
| falktx|work | problem is that 1.0 doesn't support new | 14:21 |
| falktx|work | so if we change this, new shared pedalboards won't load in 1.0 | 14:21 |
| rgareus | 1.2 or 2.0 then | 14:21 |
| rgareus | 1.0.6 already was a *required* update | 14:22 |
| rgareus | or so it told me | 14:22 |
| rgareus | but yes, I agree it's not nice. | 14:24 |
| falktx|work | well, first let's first see if drobilla add backwards compat | 14:25 |
| falktx|work | kind shitty if not, for the current ingen users and patches that becomes a little useless | 14:26 |
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| arguy | Hey lv2ers! | 19:53 |
| arguy | I have a question | 19:53 |
| arguy | I've been coding a denoiser plugin following the lv2 book guide | 19:54 |
| arguy | I implemented it in a really naive way using as a guide only the amp plugin | 19:54 |
| arguy | The thing is that I got it to work correctly in Ardour but not in Audacity | 19:55 |
| arguy | I obviously not using the advance extensions like states and atoms | 19:56 |
| arguy | Do I have to use the state extension to save a buffer at run time for example? | 19:56 |
| arguy | The plugin works by capturing a noise at first and then it process signal based on statistic gathered | 19:59 |
| arguy | In ardour I have no problem doing that while stoping and playing tracks the noise threshold array is kept intact (of course not if you close the session) | 20:00 |
| arguy | but in audacity it seems that if you select a part of the audio to capture and then select the track entirely to process it won't remember the noise previously captured | 20:03 |
| arguy | Do I solve that by using the state extension? | 20:03 |
| grejppi | if audacity supports presets, you could save the noise profile as part of a preset and then load it | 20:05 |
| grejppi | which is done using the state extension | 20:06 |
| arguy | alright | 20:07 |
| arguy | I was wondering if the state extension is the correct way of doing that or I must work with atoms and files | 20:08 |
| grejppi | oh but I'm not sure if that'll work after all | 20:08 |
| arguy | It seems that audacity is reseting the plugin instance every time a different region in the track is selected | 20:10 |
| arguy | If any of you have info on that I will appreciate it | 20:11 |
| arguy | Maybe I should ask in Audacity forums | 20:12 |
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| grejppi | I think audacity creates plugin instances just to apply them once | 20:15 |
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| arguy | yeah it seems the case | 20:16 |
| grejppi | hmm, I wonder if it's possible to use the realtime preview feature and save the state while it's running... | 20:18 |
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| arguy | I'm thinking that I can use a worker to save the buffer as a file or something like that I don't really know | 20:20 |
| arguy | I could talk to them | 20:21 |
| arguy | thx anyways grejppi | 20:21 |
| arguy | the plugin has an autolearn noise profile while running feature | 20:22 |
| arguy | but it's not really there I have to work on it more | 20:23 |
| arguy | but it's really meant to be used with speech | 20:23 |
| arguy | I have another question | 20:33 |
| arguy | is the plugin hardRT capable if a function is declaring an auxiliary array at run time? | 20:33 |
| ssj71 | dynamic or just on the stack? | 20:33 |
| arguy | just on the stack | 20:34 |
| ventosus | arguy: http://lv2plug.in/ns/lv2core/#hardRTCapable | 20:34 |
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| arguy | I'm using fftw I guess it is real time safe and I'm not using any malloc or free while running just auxiliar arrays in some functions like float something[number]; | 20:40 |
| arguy | sorry guys for my newieness :) | 20:40 |
| rgareus | arguy: cool. there's not a lot of denoisers out there | 20:41 |
| arguy | I only know the audacity denoiser and gwc | 20:42 |
| arguy | rgareus: the dsp part of it it's fine but the lv2 and optimal coding it's terrible | 20:44 |
| arguy | lol | 20:44 |
| arguy | https://github.com/lucianodato/noise-repellent maybe someone could give me a hint of what to improve lv2-wise | 20:46 |
| ventosus | arguy: variable length arrays are rt-safe, just keep your 'number' small and watch out for stack overflows :) | 20:51 |
| arguy | ventosus: perfect I will the optional feature in ttl file thx | 20:52 |
| grejppi | arguy: FWIW, lv2-c++-tools is obsolete by today's standards and it has a replacement called LVTK | 20:59 |
| arguy | ohh didn't know that | 21:00 |
| grejppi | and if you only need the ttl-to-header tool, it is now in its own project https://github.com/lvtk/ttl2c | 21:00 |
| ventosus | and before any release, run your *.ttl through the validator http://lv2plug.in/pages/validating-lv2-data.html | 21:01 |
| arguy | I know I should be talking to you guys | 21:06 |
| arguy | thanks for your insights | 21:06 |
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