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| wesqxd | how do you install Lv2-1.12.0.tar | 05:01 |
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| ssj71 | does pprops:trigger mean the host MUST return the control back to the default next run()? or just next run() after the user released the button? | 19:27 |
| falktx | 1st | 19:29 |
| falktx | host makes the control back to default after each run | 19:29 |
| falktx | it's a single-run trigger | 19:29 |
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| drobilla | Not really MUST in any strict sense implied by the RFC caps, but that's the idea anyway | 19:53 |
| ssj71 | hmm, then thats not quite what I'm looking for, I want to just indicate that it should be a momentary switch | 20:07 |
| ssj71 | so it holds value until the user releases | 20:08 |
| drobilla | http://lv2plug.in/ns/lv2core#toggled | 20:09 |
| ssj71 | but that will default to a toggle button where it holds the state and must be pressed again | 20:11 |
| ssj71 | Its a toggled parameter right now | 20:12 |
| ssj71 | I want a GtkButton, not a GtkToggleButton | 20:13 |
| ssj71 | nor a slider | 20:14 |
| falktx | GtkButton is a trigger | 20:14 |
| ssj71 | but what if the user wants to hold it to define a loop length? | 20:15 |
| ssj71 | next run() host resets it | 20:16 |
| ssj71 | even a 1 shot I think it makes sense that the port can remain 1 until the user releases the button | 20:17 |
| ssj71 | falktx: this is carrying over from https://forum.moddevices.com/t/define-footswitch-as-hold-button/289/12 | 20:18 |
| falktx | I know ;) | 20:18 |
| falktx | what you want is a lv2 hint for describing the best way to use it | 20:19 |
| ssj71 | isn't that what port properties are for? | 20:20 |
| falktx | no | 20:21 |
| falktx | hose set how it works | 20:21 |
| falktx | *those | 20:21 |
| ssj71 | well, I think you understand what I want. Just tell me what to do when you have something on the MOD side. I need to finish my rework anyway | 20:26 |
| falktx | well, nothing I guess | 20:30 |
| falktx | we can't really predict exactly what params the user will want to use as foot hold | 20:30 |
| ssj71 | perfect :) I can definitely do nothing! | 20:31 |
| drobilla | I guess that's what hosts do in practice, though the definition of the property doesn't really imply it. | 20:36 |
| drobilla | We can always add one. 10 points for clearly defining the two without talking about UI stuff like buttons | 20:37 |
| drobilla | lv2:momentary, presumably | 20:37 |
| drobilla | (port-props being among the more annoying examples of toomanyextensionsism) | 20:37 |
| drobilla | One day I'll implement militant transparent URI migration in lilv and we'll tidy this mess up something fierce :) | 20:38 |
| ssj71 | is there anyone using pprops:trigger? | 20:43 |
| falktx | carla and mod-host at least | 20:44 |
| falktx | I think jalv got it recently | 20:44 |
| ssj71 | any plugins? | 20:45 |
| falktx | sooperlooper-lv2 | 20:48 |
| falktx | https://github.com/moddevices/sooperlooper-lv2-plugin | 20:48 |
| falktx | also mod triggerswitch4 | 20:48 |
| ssj71 | does it make sense to add this as an extension or just have hosts where it would be handy (like mod) implement a way for the user to select | 20:56 |
| ssj71 | because in the plugins I have in mind, you wouldn't strictly want it to toggle or be momentary, but would want the option depending on the song | 20:57 |
| drobilla | That doesn't really strike me as something you could express in plugin metadata at all, then | 20:58 |
| drobilla | i.e. the possibility to select thing | 20:58 |
| drobilla | (Though a separate hint that explicitly means momentary still seems useful) | 20:59 |
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