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| ssj71 | true or false?: if I use an lv2 patch parameter, then my plugin can change its own state because it can notify the host and UI | 17:45 |
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| drobilla | true. | 18:32 |
| drobilla | ssj71: Load eg-params in jalv.gtk from git and move the "spring" parameter | 18:33 |
| drobilla | A few things about this parameter stuff still needs nailing down... | 18:33 |
| ssj71 | My latest plugin is currently loading files for configuration since it's a port of a standalone, but there are requests to also have a patchable string with the file contents for editing through the UI. Any reason this may be a particularly bad idea? | 18:40 |
| ssj71 | I think I will not attempt to write to disk through that method, and when state is saved it will prioritize the string over the file | 18:41 |
| falktx` | hmm | 19:04 |
| falktx` | true or false: the host is the one responsible for saving patch message values, like it does with control ports | 19:04 |
| rgareusInCy | falktx`: false. the message is just a [state-less] message | 19:13 |
| falktx` | good | 19:13 |
| rgareusInCy | falktx`: if the message results in changing state of the plugin, the plugin needs to save that state | 19:13 |
| falktx` | that makes things easier | 19:13 |
| falktx` | let the plugin save his entire state | 19:13 |
| ssj71 | but the host will call state_save? | 19:21 |
| falktx` | if you implement | 19:24 |
| ssj71 | ok, all is well | 19:25 |
| rgareusInCy | patch:set/get is just a fancier way of setting control parameters. mostly useful for setting filenames | 19:27 |
| rgareusInCy | but also midi bindings or anything that needs sematics which both host and plugin understand. | 19:27 |
| ssj71 | well, currently. but it could also be useful as an event based parameter control nl? | 19:27 |
| rgareusInCy | generic Atoms are mainly plugin DSP <> Plugin GUI -- the host has no idea what the mean. | 19:27 |
| rgareusInCy | with patch set/get : the host does know what it means and hence can generate or intercept/interpret messages. | 19:28 |
| rgareusInCy | ssj71: yes | 19:28 |
| ssj71 | I'm considering exposing other parameters because they might be manipulated by which file is loaded, but the user may want to tweak them | 19:29 |
| ssj71 | but first we're discussing allowing the host to edit/send a "file" through a string so that a remote UI need not know what is on the disk (MOD) | 19:30 |
| rgareusInCy | ssj71: IIRC ardour only support File so far | 19:31 |
| ssj71 | rgareusInCy: I think that is pretty consistent with all hosts | 19:31 |
| rgareusInCy | ssj71: ardour was for a long time the only host supporting it | 19:32 |
| ssj71 | now qtractor has it, muse has added it to the TODO | 19:32 |
| rgareusInCy | cool | 19:32 |
| ssj71 | a chicken has come so some eggs are being laid :) | 19:33 |
| falktx` | I need to support this too.. | 19:33 |
| ssj71 | falktx`: so if I add a patchable property that is an atom_string will MOD be able to edit it? | 19:34 |
| ssj71 | it seems there should be some way to designate if the string will be long or a 1 liner | 19:34 |
| falktx` | in theory yes | 19:35 |
| ssj71 | falktx`: what sort of timeline? I could probably add that sometime this week, but if you guys won't get to it, maybe I'll put it off | 19:36 |
| falktx` | definitely not this week | 19:36 |
| falktx` | or this month | 19:36 |
| ssj71 | but I'm guessing you'll never get to it if I don't add it? :p | 19:37 |
| falktx` | well, yes.. | 20:08 |
| falktx` | need to have plugins using it to make it worthwhile | 20:08 |
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| drobilla | ssj71: Nice on on reMID. I poked around looking to do the same a while ago, but never got around to actually doing it :) | 23:32 |
| drobilla | one* on | 23:32 |
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