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| Konan | hello) | 13:05 |
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| Konan | anybody here& | 13:05 |
| falktx | no, channel is empty | 13:06 |
| rgareus | :) | 13:06 |
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| Konan | nice) ( Im a musican and linux user long time, and really want to see nice gui than i open lv2 plugin. So, i can draw interfaces for TAP plugins (they have lv2 port), if someone like it, can you add this into plugins? Unfortunately I dont know how add gui into plugins =( | 13:10 |
| rgareus | making a plugin GUI is often more than 80% of the work of making a plugin. | 13:13 |
| falktx | tap plugins already have guis | 13:13 |
| rgareus | falktx: mod GUI? | 13:14 |
| falktx | yes | 13:14 |
| falktx | see https://github.com/moddevices/modgui-embed | 13:14 |
| falktx | WIP | 13:14 |
| falktx | sometime soon I'll clean it up and make an official release | 13:14 |
| falktx | but I want an lv2 property for defining the background color first | 13:14 |
| Konan | they have modgui, im trying make it works on arch, but unsuccessful =/ | 13:15 |
| Konan | trying one more time) | 13:15 |
| rgareus | Konan: if I may ask. what benefit is there go a custom GUI? I only find those useul if they add something specific that a host-provided GUI cannot to. | 13:16 |
| rgareus | e.g. dedicated visualiztion or calibrated control knobs. stuff like that. | 13:16 |
| falktx | Konan: don't try to make modguis work yet. I'll rewrite that code soon | 13:17 |
| Konan | rgareus: ofc its just for eyes) but i think its necessary for newcoming musician, who coming to linux from OSX or windows. | 13:19 |
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| rgareus | a good visual *layout* can help. | 13:20 |
| rgareus | visual design, is a tricky one. but the psychological effect "if it looks cool, I feel cool and I mix better" is not to be underestimated. | 13:21 |
| Konan | why not? i think its just like you can start jack from terminal, or you can run qjackctl | 13:22 |
| rgareus | but can also work in reverse.. it can distract from actually listening. | 13:22 |
| Konan | if it looks cool, I feel cool and I mix better - not better, may be faster =) cos for example in Fractal doubler we have 8 same lines and (if you dont working with it many hours on day) i must read what parameter i change. But if we have qualitative gui, i can just turn knobs. | 13:37 |
| Konan | may be im wrong) | 13:38 |
| Konan | on linux we have many awesome, useful plugins, but some of them without gui, some with ugly gui) I do not want to open source plug-ins look worse than the other paid products | 13:44 |
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| Konan | anyone trying Tracktion Biotek plugin on ardour/mixbus? | 14:09 |
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| rgareus | drobilla: can one define a "Plugin Set" a set of plugins the host picks the one that matches the available i/o best? | 21:19 |
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| rgareus | drobilla: e.g. { http://example.org/plugin#mono , http://example.org/plugin#stereo , http://example.org/plugin#5.1 } pick one. | 21:20 |
| falktx` | multi-output variant would be better | 21:25 |
| falktx` | an api to configure inputs and outputs dynamically | 21:25 |
| rgareus | falktx`: really? the fixed .ttl which can be parsed ahead of time strikes me like a good thing to keep. | 21:27 |
| rgareus | not that I think of it: http://example.org/plugin#multiout and N different port-definitions in the .ttl would be a better idea. | 21:27 |
| falktx` | there needs to be a fallback for dumb hosts | 21:28 |
| rgareus | just pick the first. | 21:28 |
| falktx` | dumb hosts will show all plugins | 21:28 |
| rgareus | if it's a single plugin. with N port defitions. ignore all but the first defition. | 21:29 |
| rgareus | just brainstorming | 21:29 |
| falktx` | yeah, I'm happy as long as it's backwards compatible | 21:30 |
| falktx` | I mean, that is a must.. | 21:30 |
| rgareus | maybe add lv2:alternate_ports [ lv2:port []; lv2:port []; ]; below the main definition. | 21:32 |
| falktx` | we need the indexes for connect_port though | 21:36 |
| falktx` | so a C API will always be needed I think | 21:36 |
| falktx` | unless the different configs give the plugin a different URI | 21:37 |
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