Tuesday, 2016-01-26

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frinknetLooking at the LV2 Time extension and wondering if one could use LV2 for internal transport in an app and completely remove any JACK dependency.19:55
frinknetAm I reading that correctly?19:56
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falktxyes, any basic plugin api has the same functionality19:58
falktxtransport from host to plugin is a must19:58
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frinknetSo if I wanted to do something JACKless what do I need to implement in the app to feed to LV2 (or other plugin API)?20:01
falktxyour own timeline?20:02
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frinknetfalktx: I'm having trouble finding a skeleton that represents a timeline properly. I'm probably not understanding something. Is there an example you can point me to?20:06
falktxsure, https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/blob/master/source/backend/plugin/CarlaPluginLV2.cpp#L287020:08
falktximagine 'timeInfo' in there being your host information about time20:08
frinknetWhere is timeInfo actually coming from?20:12
falktxthat's what you define20:14
frinknetI'm trying to understand your code.20:18
frinknethttps://github.com/falkTX/Carla/blob/b6a6d8799a48449077ebaeba0ee9a53d4212e2cf/source/backend/CarlaStandalone.cpp20:19
frinknetIs that where you're defining this structure?20:19
falktxno, that structure is filled during the engine code20:20
falktxif it's running under jack, it gets the info from the jack transport20:20
frinknetwhere's that?20:20
falktxif carla is running as a plugin, it gets the plugin from the host20:20
frinknetbut as per my request we are trying to run jackless standalone20:21
falktxagain, you fill that info as you see fit20:21
falktxthere's no restriction on it20:21
falktxif you don't have a timeline just don't export that info20:22
frinknetI giess I'm missing something.20:22
frinknetI'm trying to understand the passage of time through the structure as a standalone timeline implementation.20:23
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rgareusfrinknet: "use LV2 for internal transport in an app"  ?  I don't quite get what you mean by that.22:12
rgareusLV2 only defines vocabulary and semantics.   It's a standard. There is no implementation [to use in an app].    plugins that follow that standard are the implementation.22:15
rgareusreplace "LV2" with "VST" or "AudioUnit" in your question.  and that makes just as much (or little) sense to me.22:17
rgareusbut yes,  the semantics of  http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/time/  are sane to use in other apps.  they're nearly identical to how jack defines time, too.22:18
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