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| ColaEuphoria | is there a reason that the onus to load a plugin UI is on the host? | 02:32 |
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| drobilla | er... how else would it work? | 02:53 |
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| ColaEuphoria | oh wait, nevermind | 03:08 |
| ColaEuphoria | i didn't know VST actually gave developers an HWND handle. i thought plugins did that themselves for some reason | 03:09 |
| ColaEuphoria | i'll admit i'm very new when it comes to gui stuff | 03:09 |
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| dsheeler | how do i use pprops:logarithmic? | 12:22 |
| dsheeler | i was hoping this would make a controlPort log scale... but i couldn't get it to work... couldn't find use in examples | 12:23 |
| grejppi | dsheeler: it's just a hint for the UI to set the behaviour of the widget | 13:23 |
| grejppi | (iirc) | 13:23 |
| dsheeler | agreed, but i think i was getting some syntax errors and i couldn't figure the syntax | 13:25 |
| dsheeler | i'm new to lv2 | 13:25 |
| rgareus | dsheeler: I don't think jalv honors log-scale when creating the UI. Ardour does. it's mainly useful for frequency controls. | 13:32 |
| dsheeler | yep... that's what i wanted :D | 13:32 |
| rgareus | volume is usually exposed as "dB" (which is already log-scale by itself) | 13:32 |
| rgareus | so the GUI control for volume is a linear slider with the unit "dB" (equivalent to log-scale slider of "coefficent") | 13:33 |
| rgareus | dsheeler: example for log-scale freq: https://github.com/x42/fil4.lv2/blob/master/lv2ttl/fil4.ports.ttl.in#L82 | 13:33 |
| dsheeler | thanks! i think i gave up before trying that | 13:36 |
| rgareus | The turtle syntax can be somewhat strange (to users not accustomed to semantic web and federated data). | 13:37 |
| dsheeler | yeah, i'm getting to know it | 13:38 |
| rgareus | but RDF in general (subject - predicate - object) was a IMHO great idea to describe interfaces. esp for plugins: no need to actually load and open the plugin to discover the interface. | 13:39 |
| rgareus | if LV2 was developed a bit later, it'd probably be JSON-LD (instead of turtle). | 13:40 |
| dsheeler | i would go JSON | 13:41 |
| dsheeler | it's the easiest to read thing i've seen | 13:42 |
| rgareus | too late for changing it now. LV3 maybe. | 13:51 |
| dsheeler | ooo, yeah, but i'll be used to turtle by then :P | 13:52 |
| rgareus | besides it's mainly a notation. one could actually convert 1:1 turtle to JSON and back. | 13:52 |
| dsheeler | yep... it truly might be just what i'm used to using, JSON vs. Turtle | 13:53 |
| rgareus | then again writing a tool that does that is on the same order as coming up with some utility for a user to define the ports and generate (ttl, or ....) | 13:53 |
| rgareus | could even be XML... but let's not go that way :) | 13:54 |
| dsheeler | no more XML for me! | 13:54 |
| dsheeler | JSON is better than XML, objectively | 13:55 |
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