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| ventosus | what is LV2_Object_Body.id for? | 09:08 |
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| ventosus | spec says it should be: URID, or 0 for blank. | 09:08 |
| ventosus | I've only seen it used by Ardour, which sets it to 1? | 09:08 |
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| rncbc | rgareus: hi | 15:40 |
| falktx | hey rncbc | 15:40 |
| rncbc | falktx: ola | 15:40 |
| falktx | rncbc: small thing in qtractor. your lv2 barBeats time position is wrong by 1 value | 15:40 |
| falktx | rncbc: see http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/time/#barBeat "from 0 to beatsPerBar" | 15:41 |
| rgareus | rncbc: hiho | 15:41 |
| falktx | rncbc: but qtractor starts that value as 1, not 0 | 15:41 |
| rncbc | falktx: bars and beats are always base-1 | 15:41 |
| falktx | let me make a screenshot showing/proving this | 15:42 |
| rgareus | does anyone know what range units:degree intends Grad, Rad or Deg? | 15:42 |
| rncbc | rgareus: feeling great with setBfree :) | 15:42 |
| rgareus | rncbc: cool. I'm glad it keep the vibe. | 15:43 |
| rgareus | rncbc: does it work with qtractor OOTB? | 15:44 |
| rncbc | rgareus: but onder if im working it as rly intended, i mean on qtractor | 15:44 |
| falktx | rncbc: here http://i.imgur.com/Rxe4bhr.png | 15:44 |
| falktx | rncbc: right plugin ui is from qtractor. left is from jalv | 15:44 |
| falktx | rncbc: on qtractor the bar shows 2, on jalv it shows 1 | 15:45 |
| rncbc | rgareus: yes, but question is: is it supposed to work as a chain? | 15:45 |
| rgareus | rncbc: 2 setBfree's chained? no. Keyboard [with motorized drawbars] -> setBfree -> keyboard [drawbar motors] | 15:46 |
| rncbc | rgareus: i mean, dsp first then the other fx-plugins, including the final awesome leslie plugin ui? | 15:46 |
| rgareus | rncbc: the idea is that if you load a preset or midi-program, the drawbars move to the position. | 15:47 |
| rgareus | rncbc: the b_synth itself includes all effects | 15:47 |
| rgareus | the tube, reverb and leslie are all included (to be able to control them with presets just like the real organ) | 15:48 |
| rncbc | rgareus: that's the tricky part of my question, qtractor may access the leslie w/e gui plugin alright, but it doesn't always get effect | 15:49 |
| rncbc | rgareus: i mean the lv2 preset | 15:49 |
| rncbc | rgareus: otherwise i'm having a hammond party all the way ;) | 15:51 |
| rgareus | mmh are you taking about the separate b_whirl.lv2 (not the organ itself)? | 15:51 |
| rncbc | rgareus: what u mean separate? | 15:52 |
| rncbc | rgareus: dsp first (no gui) than lesli (the rotating gui) | 15:52 |
| rncbc | leslie* | 15:53 |
| rgareus | there are 4 LV2 plugins. b_synth.lv2 All in one the organ + amp + reverb + leslie | 15:53 |
| rgareus | b_whirl.lv2 separate leslie - e.g for playing guitar through a leslie | 15:53 |
| rncbc | rgareus: the laslie lv2 presets doesn't always work. may is my fault, i dunno | 15:53 |
| rgareus | mmh. try jalv.gtk http://gareus.org/oss/lv2/b_whirl#extended or lv2info on it | 15:54 |
| rncbc | rgareus: and what i mean not working is about not having any evidence that the sound is any different. | 15:55 |
| rgareus | maybe you have an old version in /usr/lib/lv2 and a new in /usr/local | 15:55 |
| rncbc | rgareus: and somewhat a third time it works. bummer | 15:55 |
| rgareus | aah. they don't sound different, really. just the speed is different. | 15:56 |
| rncbc | rgareus: aha. yep i can see the knobs in stock gemneric moving... that must be it | 15:57 |
| rgareus | I found 2 different sources how fast the horn and drum should spin and created the presets to check that out. | 15:57 |
| rncbc | generic* | 15:57 |
| rgareus | it's a ui#X11UI that should just work with qtractor, does it no? | 15:57 |
| rncbc | rgareus: it works np. | 15:58 |
| rgareus | I'm just tweaking the port-names to make the generic UI a bit more usable. | 15:59 |
| rncbc | rgareus: question is/was about the stock leslie lv2 presets | 15:59 |
| rgareus | rncbc: I should probably remove them. | 15:59 |
| rgareus | they only cover a subset: the RPM values | 15:59 |
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| rncbc | falktx: is that 1|1|0 from the vst and 2|1|0 from the lv2? | 16:01 |
| falktx | rncbc: let me try... | 16:01 |
| rncbc | falktx: try also hit "play" :) | 16:02 |
| falktx | hmm, qtractor doesn't set transient window hints :( | 16:02 |
| rncbc | falktx: wha? | 16:03 |
| falktx | the external ui doesn't set the parent (transient) window id | 16:03 |
| falktx | anyway, same thing with vst / lv2 in qtractor | 16:04 |
| falktx | rncbc: vst has time right, lv2 has +1 | 16:04 |
| rncbc | falktx: ok. ill investigate. what's that transient window thing all about? | 16:05 |
| falktx | something for later | 16:05 |
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| rncbc | falktx: in think ive found the mistake... you seem to honor LV2_TIME__barBeat calculations, and ignore LV2_TIME__bar and LV2_TIME__beat ones | 17:21 |
| falktx | rncbc: I use LV2_TIME__bar, but not LV2_TIME__beat | 17:23 |
| rncbc | qtractor gets its LV2_TIME__bar = jack_position_t.bar (no point up nor down) | 17:27 |
| rncbc | falktx: thats interesting because vst gets exactly the same information, but get it right (not off by 1) | 17:29 |
| falktx | that's because you need to add -1 in there somewhere | 17:31 |
| rncbc | falktx: lets see... | 17:32 |
| falktx | https://sourceforge.net/p/qtractor/code/ci/master/tree/src/qtractorLv2Plugin.cpp#l3565 | 17:32 |
| falktx | lv2_atom_forge_long(forge, long(time_bar.value)); | 17:33 |
| falktx | that seems to be it | 17:33 |
| rncbc | falktx: and? https://sourceforge.net/p/qtractor/code/ci/master/tree/src/qtractorLv2Plugin.cpp#l3517 | 17:34 |
| falktx | I guess so | 17:34 |
| falktx | I haven't tested it | 17:35 |
| rncbc | falktx: letmesee what vst does... | 17:36 |
| falktx | vst has ppqPos, which is a different beast | 17:37 |
| rncbc | falktx: ohya | 17:37 |
| rncbc | could it be that it suffices a --bar ? | 17:38 |
| rncbc | at least i matches bar numbers | 17:40 |
| rncbc | now | 17:40 |
| falktx | laters | 17:42 |
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