Tuesday, 2015-05-19

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john_cephalopodahi08:49
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john_cephalopodaHey13:49
john_cephalopodaWhen testing my plugin with jalf, I get this error:13:53
john_cephalopodalilv_plugin_get_unique(): error: Multiple values found for (167b1 http://lv2plug.in/ns/lv2core#index ...) property13:53
john_cephalopodalilv_plugin_load_ports_if_necessary(): error: Plugin <http://example.com> port index is not an integer13:53
drobillajohn_cephalopoda: Kind of self explanatory, check your data13:56
john_cephalopodaSo it is in the ttl and not in the code?13:56
drobillayes13:56
falktxyour plugin is http://example.com? :)13:57
john_cephalopodaNo, actually I put my github in there, but I didn't want to list it here and seem like somebody who just wants clicks, so I replaced it ;)13:58
john_cephalopodad'oh!14:00
john_cephalopodaI wrote "lv2:Index" instead of "lv2:index"14:00
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ssj71if opening a plugin yeilds an error "failed to expand CURIE "atom:Path" does that mean the host doesn't support that or that the lilv library or something is out of date?19:18
falktxit means  you're missing the atom definition in your ttl headers :P19:19
HarryHaarenssj71, generally that the ttl @prefix is missing19:19
HarryHaarenthat19:19
ssj71I checked that first19:20
falktxyou probably have a typo then19:20
falktxshows us the goods19:21
HarryHaarenlol19:21
* ssj71 facepalms19:21
ssj71hold on, let me try installing the updated ttl :\19:22
ssj71ok19:22
ssj71fixed.19:22
ssj71mandatory port has unknown data type. Do any hosts support atom:Paths?19:22
falktxardour does19:23
ssj71or I guess its patch thats missing?19:23
falktxcarla doesn't do lv2 paths yet19:23
ssj71ok, I'm trying to implement in for the rakarrack ports19:24
ssj71I'll test with ardour19:24
HarryHaarenjalv IIRC does too19:25
ssj71if jalv does I have another error in my ttl or something19:25
ssj71and I copied it pretty directly from eg_sampler19:27
falktxjalv probably does not do it19:33
falktxnot sure if ingen does19:33
falktxI only know ardour supports this19:33
falktxthere was a post about this thing not long ago19:33
ssj71I plan to release the rkr plugins using only atom:path, hoping it will push hosts a bit toward supporting it19:40
falktxatom:path is not enough19:40
ssj71worker etc19:40
falktxlv2 needs a way to specific the meta-type wanted19:41
falktxotherwise hosts will show all files19:41
ssj71meaning require an extension?19:41
falktxno, having some extra property19:42
falktxor you meant a file extension? that's usually useless19:42
ssj71yes I meant file extension. I don't quite follow19:42
ssj71I just want the host to create send me the path to the file the user selects, do I need more than that?19:43
falktxcurrently you're only saying "host, give me a file"19:44
falktxwith no context or any information about what you want at all19:44
falktxwell, not you specifically. lv2 in general19:45
falktxit needs at least a mime-type19:45
ssj71but don't you put an lv2:name on the port? I woukd think that would be sufficient to tell the user what type of file to load19:47
falktxnot sure. but the host file browser still has no idea what files to look for, so it will show them all19:48
ssj71I guess that doesn't seem like a huge deal to me, but I agree it would be better UX if it filters out invalid files19:49
ssj71can't we add an extension that adds a couple of tags when you define the lv2:Parameter for the file port?19:50
falktxhack away :)19:51
drobillahttp://lv2plug.in/pages/validating-lv2-data.html19:52
drobillaSeems to be the theme of the day19:52
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ssj71drobilla: falktx and I think it would be good if plugins could indicate to the host what type of file is desired when it has an atom port for atom:Path. Would something like this: https://sourceforge.net/p/rkrlv2/code/ci/dev/tree/lv2/ttl/reverbtron.ttl (line 28) be appropriate?20:36
falktxdrobilla: ^20:39
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drobillasure.  presumably already some appropriate prediate around for that but I'd have to look22:36
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