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| rncbc | ftr. qtractor lv2-event (old midi) support is slanted for deprecation: heil to lv2-atom! | 15:08 |
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| falktx` | rncbc: does qtractor send time info to plugins via atom messages? | 15:16 |
| falktx` | a user was reporting on #kxstudio that it wasn't working | 15:16 |
| rncbc | falktx`: yes | 15:16 |
| rncbc | falktx`: it does | 15:17 |
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| rncbc | falktx`: it has been the cornerstone to qmidiarp a year or so ago | 15:18 |
| falktx | the plugin works in ardour and carla, but not in qtractor | 15:19 |
| rncbc | falktx: which one? | 15:20 |
| falktx | juce-demo-plugin in https://github.com/DISTRHO/DISTRHO-Ports | 15:20 |
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| rncbc | falktx: ill try | 15:24 |
| falktx | rncbc: use "make lv2" after the premake so it only builds lv2 plugins and skips vsts | 15:25 |
| rncbc | premake? wtf is that? | 15:25 |
| falktx | it's like cmake | 15:25 |
| rncbc | falktx: is it? | 15:26 |
| falktx | yes. it has a config file which generates makefiles | 15:27 |
| rncbc | falktx: whatever... i don't have premake here available anyhow | 15:30 |
| falktx | I can give you a binary if you don't mind | 15:30 |
| rncbc | falktx: and official v4 doen't seem to work though | 15:30 |
| falktx | the plugin is inside here https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-debian/+archive/ubuntu/plugins/+files/distrho-plugin-ports-lv2_20150430-1kxstudio1_amd64.deb | 15:32 |
| rncbc | falktx: no debianese speak here | 15:32 |
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| falktx | you can extract it | 15:33 |
| rncbc | falktx: nevermind, make is running, somehow... | 15:34 |
| falktx | the vst gets the time, the lv2 version does not | 15:34 |
| rncbc | falktx: ==== Building drowaudio-reverb.lv2/drowaudio-reverb ==== | 15:34 |
| falktx | so it's building the plugins already | 15:35 |
| rncbc | falktx: so far so good... i guess the vst pass has gone | 15:35 |
| rncbc | falktx: which prefix or DESTDIR by default? | 15:35 |
| falktx | I think only DESTDIR is used | 15:36 |
| falktx | the plugins are all in bin/lv2/ | 15:36 |
| rncbc | falktx: i mean, is ir /usr/local, /usr,... ? | 15:36 |
| rncbc | falktx: bin? not lib? | 15:37 |
| falktx | bin as in (source-root)/bin/lv2 | 15:37 |
| falktx | the binaries get put there | 15:37 |
| rncbc | falktx: that's weird, shouldn't plugins get into .../lib ? | 15:37 |
| falktx | ...sigh | 15:38 |
| falktx | during install yes, of course | 15:38 |
| falktx | but this the build dir | 15:38 |
| rncbc | falktx: ill have to test them, so ill make install, capisce? | 15:38 |
| falktx | you can do 'sudo make install PREFIX=/usr' | 15:38 |
| falktx | rncbc: you could copy the juce-demo-plugin only manually instead of full install | 15:39 |
| rncbc | falktx: ill try | 15:39 |
| falktx | if you never tried these plugins before I think you'll like them | 15:39 |
| falktx | even know they're made with juce... | 15:40 |
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| falktx | it's slowly getting better | 15:40 |
| rncbc | falktx: ftr. ive tried some years ago | 15:40 |
| rncbc | falktx: and then, vst and lv2 time info were working alright on qtractor | 15:41 |
| rncbc | falktx: fyi. the v1's use it , re. when delay bpm set to auto | 15:44 |
| falktx | this is not just bpm | 15:45 |
| falktx | it's full time info | 15:45 |
| rncbc | falktx: bpm is one prop of the lv2 time struct ;) | 15:45 |
| rncbc | falktx: anyway, it failed | 15:46 |
| falktx | https://github.com/DISTRHO/DISTRHO-Ports/blob/master/libs/juce/source/modules/juce_audio_plugin_client/LV2/juce_LV2_Wrapper.cpp#L1409 | 15:46 |
| rncbc | falktx: http://pastebin.com/1Wu4Ea2Z | 15:47 |
| falktx | run "make lv2" only | 15:47 |
| falktx | you don't need the vsts for this | 15:47 |
| falktx | it's also mentioned in the README :) | 15:47 |
| rncbc | falktx: and what should be the make install? then? | 15:48 |
| falktx | you can do 'sudo make install PREFIX=/usr' | 15:49 |
| rncbc | falktx: why o why does it make it to /usr/src/disthro ???? | 15:51 |
| falktx | for other custom plugins | 15:51 |
| falktx | these ones https://github.com/DISTRHO/DISTRHO-Ports-Extra | 15:51 |
| falktx | they need that src to work | 15:51 |
| falktx | (to build) | 15:51 |
| rncbc | falktx: i can confirm, juce-demo-plugin is not getting any lv2 transport info ... | 15:57 |
| rncbc | falktx: also, when on jalv urn:juce:JuceDemoPlugin, tempo display is erratic | 16:05 |
| falktx | known issue. jalv only sends new time info when play begins | 16:09 |
| falktx | it expects the plugin to update its internal tempo automatically during run | 16:09 |
| falktx | I haven't done that for juce-lv2 yet | 16:10 |
| rncbc | falktx: well, qtractor does almost the same, new atom event is only sent when info changes | 16:32 |
| falktx | it depends on what this info means | 16:33 |
| falktx | do you send the bar, barBeat changes? | 16:33 |
| rncbc | falktx: yes. also, might differ from vst, where the plugin asks the time info all the time | 16:34 |
| falktx | jalv doens't send *any* change when the playback is rolling | 16:36 |
| falktx | it expects the plugins to update BBT and similar internally | 16:37 |
| falktx | it's a pain :( | 16:37 |
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| drobilla | that premake stuff doesn't work with the debian v4 either. The filenames and premake binary name are wrong | 17:05 |
| drobilla | It seems rather wasteful to send a big tempo event every single cycle when nothing has changed except time rolled | 17:06 |
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