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| falkTX | drobilla: can we rename things via ingen api? looking at http://lv2plug.in/ns/ext/patch/ I don't see a rename message type | 11:33 |
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| falkTX | ah move works | 13:32 |
| * falkTX says bye to /control_out, hah | 13:33 | |
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| drobilla | falkTX: control_in and control_out are special. Don't do that. | 13:55 |
| falkTX | drobilla: what are they used for? | 13:56 |
| drobilla | control :P | 13:56 |
| falkTX | but I don't need control output right now | 13:56 |
| drobilla | falkTX: ...... and renaming it improves this situation how? | 13:57 |
| drobilla | I need to think about it, but pretty sure this bug will be fixed, just as deleting them is not possible | 13:57 |
| falkTX | drobilla: why can't I delete them? | 13:58 |
| drobilla | Well, they are the UI comm ports | 13:58 |
| drobilla | s/UI/everything/ | 13:59 |
| falkTX | the ingen I'm using is sending messages via sockets | 13:59 |
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| falkTX | drobilla: after I remove the control_output, everything is still working just like before | 14:00 |
| drobilla | Yes, but you've now broken the patch for running as a plugin. | 14:00 |
| drobilla | I see no reason to let people shoot themselves in the foot like that, particularly since it's almost surely to be come more important for other reasons in the future. | 14:01 |
| falkTX | it's a temporary thing | 14:01 |
| falkTX | we'll hack some midi-output later | 14:02 |
| falkTX | *have | 14:02 |
| drobilla | Let me put it this way | 14:03 |
| drobilla | When everything is fucked because you did this | 14:03 |
| drobilla | The "I told you so" will be enjoyable ;) | 14:03 |
| falkTX | ok, been warned | 14:04 |
| falkTX | drobilla: maybe we can keep the control_out but hide the jack port. is that possible? | 14:04 |
| drobilla | If we had any sense and the facilities to do so at the start, every single LV2 plugin would be like this | 14:05 |
| drobilla | falkTX: Theoretically, I guess so. Seems kind of clunky. Does it do any harm? | 14:06 |
| falkTX | nah, just might confuse users a bit right now | 14:07 |
| drobilla | This would be a useful metadata property (port is 'active') | 14:07 |
| falkTX | btw, does that mean that if I name a plugin "control_out" I can't remove it ? | 14:08 |
| drobilla | Well, maybe, a little bit, but I have plenty of physical gear around with MIDI out ports that may or may not actually be doing something. Same deal. | 14:08 |
| drobilla | falkTX: Yep. | 14:08 |
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| falkTX | hehe, yeah... | 14:08 |
| falkTX | Object not deletable: ingen:/root/control_out | 14:08 |
| falkTX | can't remove the plugin :P | 14:08 |
| drobilla | Move is new, I didn't think to handle those. | 14:09 |
| falkTX | drobilla: the thing I need right now is save/load graphs | 14:09 |
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| drobilla | Yeah, I was working towards that. API wise, move to filesystem path | 14:10 |
| drobilla | Got state stuff in the server for server-side copy paste, which is half that battle (some work from bgola) | 14:10 |
| falkTX | I created a feature request just in case | 14:10 |
| drobilla | Still need to move the serializer to the engine | 14:10 |
| drobilla | How to properly deal with this stuff in the GUI I don't know, but I might just try to blissfully ignore it... | 14:11 |
| drobilla | falkTX: OK, thanks | 14:12 |
| drobilla | falkTX: Away for the weekend, then I'll be in shit for not working that whole time, but hopefully can take a stab at it later next week | 14:12 |
| falkTX | drobilla: last thing, is it possible to get ingen to print something when it receives a message/subject/object that it doesn't understand? | 14:14 |
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| falkTX | drobilla: here's a screenshot to cheer you up: https://i.imgur.com/kdFwPpz.png | 14:22 |
| falkTX | drobilla: ingen and lv2 are getting into some real action soon :) | 14:23 |
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| rgareus | falkTX: what am I looking at? is that ingen as 'engine' behind MOD? | 14:40 |
| drobilla | falkTX: Come to think of it, sequence ports perhaps should be hidden if they don't lv2:supports <something supported by jack> anyway, which is true of control_* initially until they are connected or the user explicitly does this | 14:45 |
| drobilla | Where <something supported by jack> = MIDI for Jack2 | 14:45 |
| drobilla | falkTX: It should respond with an error. You want it to literally print to stderr? | 14:46 |
| drobilla | falkTX: cool | 14:46 |
| falkTX | drobilla: yes, we're testing ingen as a replacement for mod-host | 14:53 |
| falkTX | seems to work good | 14:54 |
| falkTX | the already-provided lv2 integration is a big plus | 14:54 |
| falkTX | drobilla: printing to stderr would be good yes | 14:54 |
| drobilla | Should be easy to add a --debug flag or some such | 15:02 |
| drobilla | File a ticket or I'll forget, but you can cram it in Event::pre_process_done if you want it now | 15:05 |
| drobilla | Now we just need a MOD with a fuckton of rotary encoders :) | 15:24 |
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