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| Socapex | Hello, I was breifly looking at LV2 for integration in an open project I work on. I am wondering how portable are the plugins? We use Qt5, are the LV2 plugins completely plateform agnostic, or have to be rebuilt for our trageted plateforms? | 23:07 |
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| falktx | plugins are binaries, so you need to recompile for different architectures and OSes | 23:19 |
| badosu | Hi Socapex, it's pretty easy to embed any plugin regardless of graphcal toolkit using Suil | 23:21 |
| badosu | See: http://drobilla.net/software/suil/ | 23:21 |
| falktx | badosu: except suil doesn't support qt5 yet | 23:22 |
| badosu | Oh, sorry I guess I let that slip by | 23:22 |
| Socapex | Allright, thank you both for the information. I will probably be bothering you guys a bit during my prototyping phase, please be patient :) | 23:22 |
| drobilla | AFAIK qt4 in qt5 is not possible | 23:22 |
| drobilla | Not sure about embedding other things | 23:22 |
| badosu | falktx: I saw your patch re: qt5 is it far from being usable upstream? | 23:22 |
| falktx | badosu: you can already use qt5 in lv2 | 23:23 |
| falktx | the "issue" is suil missing support for it | 23:23 |
| falktx | plus qt5 widgets cannot be embedded, but qt5 can embed other widgets | 23:23 |
| badosu | Socapex: you can check a qt4 host implementation here, if that helps your: http://dev.drobilla.net/browser/trunk/jalv/src/jalv_qt4.cpp | 23:23 |
| Socapex | I saw Qt5ui so I thought it was possible. We will ship with our own basic set of plugins, so we only need Qt5 to start off with | 23:24 |
| badosu | falktx: so we need to update the ui namespace documentation, last time I saw could not find it | 23:24 |
| Socapex | badosu: ty! I will do that | 23:24 |
| badosu | Socapex: as falktx said, Suil does not support qt5 yet, so that may be an issue | 23:24 |
| drobilla | If the host and UI widget type is the same it doesn't matter. | 23:25 |
| badosu | Socapex: you would have to patch Suil or try to implement it in a lower level | 23:25 |
| * drobilla has to say this way too often | 23:25 | |
| falktx | you can also implement ui:show feature that allows to show any ui type | 23:25 |
| badosu | Socapex: where did you see Qt5UI? I've been looking for this some days ago | 23:26 |
| falktx | I should really try to add qt5 to suil... | 23:26 |
| Socapex | badosu: Probably not a reference, but it gave me hope: http://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11249 | 23:26 |
| falktx | badosu: it was added 2 days ago http://lv2plug.in/git/cgit.cgi/lv2.git/commit/?id=bca3727839288d70293f4443246973e98c050e49 | 23:26 |
| falktx | Socapex: I'm the author of carla btw | 23:27 |
| Socapex | so what does suil do differently than the basic UIs | 23:27 |
| Socapex | falktx: Wow! That plugin looks wicked :D | 23:27 |
| badosu | falktx: Yeah, I saw that patch, as I commented earlier. But is it upstream? Also, how can I update http://lv2plug.in/ns/extensions/ui/ | 23:27 |
| falktx | badosu: it's on lv2 git, so it's upstream | 23:27 |
| badosu | falktx: nice, thanks. Gonna try it | 23:28 |
| falktx | regarding suil, you should just read http://drobilla.net/software/suil/ | 23:28 |
| Socapex | so qt5 FTW? \o/ | 23:28 |
| falktx | well, are you writing a host or a plugin? | 23:29 |
| badosu | Socapex: also, if you plan to implement a Lv2 host, you should check this library for discoverability: http://drobilla.net/software/lilv/ | 23:29 |
| Socapex | falktx: But if we only want to support Qt, then it is fine without suil... Though I guess we would be missing out some nice plugins | 23:29 |
| Socapex | badosu: I was planning on using lilv, maybe the c++ toolkit too, though I'm not sure if we need so much. Our core is C | 23:30 |
| falktx | Socapex: if you're writing a host there should be no issues | 23:30 |
| Socapex | yes a host | 23:30 |
| falktx | embeding stuff in qt5 hosts is possible | 23:30 |
| badosu | Socapex: If you want to check how the simplest lv2 plugin in qt looks like, see http://github.com/badosu/BadAmp | 23:30 |
| falktx | the other way is that is not (plugin UIs on qt5 cannot be embed) | 23:30 |
| badosu | gonna be away, see you guys | 23:30 |
| drobilla | lvtk has host things? | 23:31 |
| falktx | no idea | 23:31 |
| Socapex | building lilv using cmake sounds like a nightmare? From what I see it looks like vary small project so I'm hopefull | 23:32 |
| falktx | it uses waf, not cmake | 23:32 |
| falktx | ./waf configure; ./waf; ./waf install | 23:32 |
| Socapex | but if I would, say, create a cmakefile. Would that sound crazy? Cause if it does, I uhm, never had that idea xD | 23:33 |
| drobilla | ... why? | 23:34 |
| Socapex | because we currently distribute everything using cmake. And adding waf may make some people unhappy (very) | 23:35 |
| Socapex | though I'm not 100% on how cmake & waf mix together | 23:35 |
| falktx | drobilla: I'm coding qt5 support on suil right now | 23:35 |
| * drobilla shrugs | 23:35 | |
| drobilla | suit yourself | 23:36 |
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| drobilla | falktx: ok | 23:37 |
| falktx | drobilla: for gtk2 we can assume it's using x11 right? | 23:38 |
| falktx | so that I can bail if qt5 is using wayland for example | 23:39 |
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| falktx | that gtk2-in-qt4 code looks weird... | 23:44 |
| falktx | you're getting the host-widget winId and then doing embed on the UI side | 23:47 |
| falktx | but afaik it should be the other way | 23:47 |
| falktx | getting the winId from the gtk2 UI and having the host-widget do the embed | 23:48 |
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