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| HarryHaaren | drobilla, I've pushed a convienience function to PUGL for getting a string version of an EventType. Its useful for me to serialize PuglEvents, diff here https://github.com/harryhaaren/pugl/commit/fcd43130e06b088b59ef5597e6332415e4c00703 | 13:50 |
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| HarryHaaren | also, on http://drobilla.net/software/pugl it states "Pugl is a minimal portable API for OpenGL GUIs", which isn't quite true anymore with the Cairo backend. I'm referencing it in an article for LAC, just figured i'd mention. | 13:51 |
| HarryHaaren | removing OpenGL from the first sentence might be an option? Up to you, no pressure | 13:52 |
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| drobilla | HarryHaaren: Just use a table in your serialization code | 21:22 |
| drobilla | HarryHaaren: Why do you need to serialize events? | 21:22 |
| HarryHaaren | that would work too, sure. Serializing events is useful for testing, and simulating activity in general. Automated tests? Got it. | 21:23 |
| HarryHaaren | I know - there's pixel co-ordinates in the event stream, so it doesn't scale to UI's that change layout between versions. | 21:24 |
| drobilla | Sure. Serializable anything is good. Just curious. | 21:46 |
| HarryHaaren | theres a WIP paper going on here about AVTK to the LAC - that's the reason to actually implement the serialization right now: i had record / replay events implemented already | 21:47 |
| drobilla | I don't think I'm going to make anything in :/ | 21:47 |
| HarryHaaren | PUGL gets a heading, anything I can reference there? I have a link to /pugl on the site, but if there's a paper or so..? | 21:47 |
| HarryHaaren | oh that's a pity.. are you attending? | 21:48 |
| drobilla | Hopefully. No plans yet | 21:48 |
| * HarryHaaren doesnt see your name on attendees list | 21:48 | |
| HarryHaaren | ah ok. Would be good to catch up over a beer. | 21:48 |
| HarryHaaren | You're too busy for getting a paper done or? | 21:49 |
| drobilla | Suppose I should actually register | 21:50 |
| drobilla | mmhmm | 21:50 |
| drobilla | Then plan was Ingen, but....... | 21:50 |
| drobilla | I guess I could invent a paper in the next, what, week? Maybe. Ish. | 21:50 |
| drobilla | I have other work to do and papers to write roughly now that need to happen | 21:51 |
| HarryHaaren | lightning talks can have 2 pages of "documentation" in the proceedings, concidered that? | 21:51 |
| drobilla | Also the term ends literally the day before, and I don't know what my responsibilities are :/ | 21:53 |
| drobilla | HarryHaaren: I'd rather do a talk and fuck it up less this time, but I suppose that's another possibility | 21:53 |
| drobilla | bgola_: on that, server side presets? | 21:54 |
| drobilla | that and server-side state saving (and thus state support for plugins) are things that need to happen. | 21:54 |
| HarryHaaren | ah that's a gotcha about term.. pity theats the way things panned out. | 21:54 |
| HarryHaaren | i'll wait and see :) | 21:54 |
| drobilla | I have been thinking about the intersections of Ingen providing support for this and UIs getting preset data, among other things... | 21:54 |
| drobilla | HarryHaaren: Yeah, but I need to figure it out ASAP, because that flight ain't getting any cheaper... | 21:55 |
| drobilla | I suppose I can just commit anyway. If I have to proctor and I'm not here, well, fuck 'em | 21:55 |
| drobilla | What are they going to do, fire me? I'd welcome it anyway | 21:55 |
| HarryHaaren | not to sway you, but it'd be good to have you at the LAC :) | 21:55 |
| * drobilla sends some emails and stuff | 22:10 | |
| HarryHaaren | re email: "developer workshop"? Why not. I think that is something specifically LV2 would benefit from | 22:10 |
| drobilla | yep | 22:11 |
| HarryHaaren | i can't hang around after the LAC: i have to leave monday to get back to teaching here. So during the LAC would be the only time-slot we're both there (assuming you're going) | 22:18 |
| drobilla | Yeah. I figure that'll be the case for most | 22:19 |
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| drobilla | It's weird trying to write a paper about just a program. No substance | 23:22 |
| drobilla | Maybe a lightning talk is more appropriate | 23:22 |
| HarryHaaren | given that MOD is using Ingen as a backend, i'm pretty interested in its internals, and a paper/lightning-talk on the program itself certainly will help me get to grips with it | 23:25 |
| drobilla | allegedly hypothetically :) | 23:29 |
| drobilla | I'll see if I can bang one out in a day. Ultimately I can write the paper without making a release, there's still months for that | 23:29 |
| falktx | well, last year we had a full talk about a single tool | 23:32 |
| falktx | radium | 23:32 |
| falktx | that was... something :) | 23:32 |
| HarryHaaren | he had some interesting things though? The PureData and RLTD_LOCAL 'trick' was from that talk. Not needed anymore since pd 0.46, but hey | 23:45 |
| HarryHaaren | admittedly i missed the start of it | 23:45 |
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