Saturday, 2014-11-15

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grammoboydrobilla, I've recreated a AMS patch in Ingen. Most of the modules seems to be ported.16:58
grammoboydrobilla, the only problem I have is the fact that I don't get always sound16:59
grammoboydrobilla, could be the patch, or a bug in ams-lv2, Aurelien is looking at it16:59
grammoboydrobilla, any plans to finish the ingenams script?17:00
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drobillagrammoboy: Stop asking me that.17:53
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drobillagrammoboy: "any plans to <do thing I want>?" like 5 times in as many days has more than crossed the line from asking into pestering :P17:54
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grammoboydrobilla, come on, the problem is you not giving an answer on this one18:01
grammoboydrobilla, it's not strange to ask for a the possibility of a finished script if you have to do it by hand otherwise18:02
grammoboydrobilla, I've no problem at all if you don't have plans to work on it, I just need to know before I do a lot of work for nothing18:03
grammoboydrobilla, you could see it as interest in your software from a user, but apparently you don't see it as positive at all18:04
grammoboydrobilla, other people have giving up using Ingen, because of the inconsistent development18:05
drobillagrammoboy: I have said no, several times.18:06
grammoboydrobilla, afaik you said no to porting the modules, clear enough. But you are writing about how the script could be improved to handle certain situation, but you where not clear about whether or not you will work on those improvements18:07
grammoboythat's why I'm asking18:07
drobillagrammoboy: The point that you want me to work on the script you want for free in the free time I do not have is noted18:07
drobillagrammoboy: Pestering me isn't going to get you it, it's just going to piss me off18:07
grammoboydrobilla, sorry, but you misinterpret me18:08
grammoboydrobilla, I don't want you to work on anything if you don't want it18:08
drobillaIt is not a priority at this time.18:08
drobillaObviously I "have plans" to work on it at some point in the infinite future18:09
grammoboyok clear18:09
drobillaprotip: contributions of pretty much any variety might actually be effective at buying my time18:10
drobillaperson #9823478432892635986 on the Internet being noisier about what they'd like me to do, not so much ;)18:10
grammoboyin this case it shouldn't be smart of me, if I didn't ask the question18:14
grammoboyand I can imagine that it is also in the benefit of the author of Ingen if people are working on presets18:14
grammoboyanyway, enough said18:15
grammoboyyeah I'm willing to donate, but then 'infinite future' is too uncertain for me18:15
drobillaIt is if, say, they're going to systematically port them and contribute them as example patches.  Hint hint.18:17
drobillaAn offer to do so would go a whole lot farther with me than asking the same thing at least 3 times18:18
grammoboybut I can't pay a programmers salary :) I'm most of the time 'broke' myself ;)18:19
grammoboyoh you mean offering to port the example patches?18:20
grammoboyI think that's something which I can talk about, yes18:20
drobillaAlong with a bunch of trivially easy to figure out on your own LMGTFY style questions, like "is this script run like <exactly the thing in the usage message, which is accurate>?"18:21
drobillaSorry to be a dick.  You can consider this constructive criticism, which is more helpful than me ignoring you being annoying, at least ;)18:21
grammoboyI've zero problems with other developers afaik18:22
drobillaI'm busy.  Very busy.  However busy you think "busy" is, 3 times that busy.  This conversation is stealing time from the work I need to be doing (on Saturday, and Sunday, and every other day, ever)18:23
drobillaYeah, well, I'm also an asshole about naggy IRC people.18:23
drobillaIf I say no, once, asking again is sure to piss me out outrageously.18:23
drobillaoff*18:23
drobillaIt's largely why I left IRC for a long time, which was a great idea I should have stuck with.18:24
grammoboyI can offer you to donate something for the script18:24
grammoboyI can offer you to help converting the AMS patches to Ingen with the script and share them as examples18:25
drobillaJust a never-ending stream of do this do this do this do this, can't think straight18:25
drobillaWell, see, now that I've told you off, asking for money seems so petty :)18:25
drobillagrammoboy: send me the patch you ported and I will look in to it "soon"18:25
drobillaWhich today means "if the chunk of real-actual-work that needs going today gets done, then the pending ardour bugs get done, and it's not 4am"18:26
grammoboyok, I will first let Aurelien look at it, and then I'll sent it to you.18:27
grammoboytake it easy, it doesn't have to be done next week or so, but a time indication is always nice if you have plans to do something18:35
drobillaWell, I plan to release for next LAC, if that counts18:35
drobillaMore LAD work in December, though not particularly Ingen focused, it will get some side attention anyway.18:36
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* grammoboy starts with episode 28 of funprogramming.org :)18:50
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