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| abique | Hi, does any of you have info about lv2 support in renoise? | 12:23 |
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| HarryHaaren | abique, there's a forum thread | 12:27 |
| HarryHaaren | apparently one of the renoise dev's was implementing it, and got a little frustrated, arguing it was difficult to support etc | 12:27 |
| HarryHaaren | i hope he's continuing his work, it would be fantastic to have it | 12:27 |
| HarryHaaren | I'd pay the upgrade from Renoise 2 -> 3 if 3 had Lv2 support: i don't know if the new features do it for me | 12:28 |
| abique | yes! | 12:28 |
| abique | is lv2 that complicated to implement? | 12:29 |
| abique | compared to dssi? | 12:29 |
| abique | I started a dssi synth | 12:29 |
| HarryHaaren | i don't think so actually, but I guess it depends on the code of the host | 12:29 |
| abique | yes | 12:29 |
| abique | ok | 12:29 |
| HarryHaaren | abique, just abstract the synth implementation away from the "dssi" wrapper as such, and then it'll be easy to port to LV2 if that is a wish of somebody in future | 12:30 |
| HarryHaaren | ie: let the synth be a class, and call noteOn() noteOff() etc on the class: makes for neat code anyway, and you'll thank yourself you did it when porting comes! | 12:30 |
| abique | HarryHaaren, yes that's whay I do | 12:31 |
| HarryHaaren | :) | 12:31 |
| abique | HarryHaaren, what do you use to make the gui? | 12:31 |
| HarryHaaren | is code availble for you synth? I don't know if i'm familiar with it | 12:31 |
| abique | are you working on new stuff? | 12:31 |
| HarryHaaren | yep :D | 12:31 |
| abique | well I started a looooooooooooooong time ago | 12:31 |
| abique | but I plan on improving it for real this time | 12:31 |
| HarryHaaren | I'm using NTK (the non-toolkit), its pretty neat as it has a UI builder, and I'm using custom drawn widgets for the look & feel | 12:32 |
| abique | https://github.com/abique/shell-dsp | 12:32 |
| HarryHaaren | ah cool, so what type of synth is it? FM or something? | 12:32 |
| abique | well, I plan to go on modular path | 12:32 |
| abique | a mix of zebra, ace, bazille, wusik | 12:33 |
| abique | I like the idea of connecting cables | 12:33 |
| abique | I like the idea of high level modules like zebra and ace | 12:33 |
| HarryHaaren | ah cool... the next OpenAV synth will be "modular" in that sense, it has a routing matrix, anything-to-anywhere: http://openavproductions.com/ninja/ | 12:34 |
| abique | HarryHaaren, have you used ace? | 12:35 |
| HarryHaaren | nope... seen it being used by others tho | 12:36 |
| abique | HarryHaaren, here a video which you inspire you, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_e1Rj-ULwU | 12:38 |
| abique | in your ninja screenshot, the signal path is not very clear | 12:38 |
| HarryHaaren | abique, yeah its not finished yet :D Also, there's text to explain it when you hover-over any of the dials | 12:45 |
| HarryHaaren | its pretty usable actually. Its also very logically structured: there's 6 mod inputs, (3 adsr, 2 lfo, keytrack) and they can all route to anything | 12:45 |
| HarryHaaren | also, you're aware that's an *insanely* complex synth right? there's so many features just under the surface, its actually a huge piece of work | 12:46 |
| HarryHaaren | Ninja is also complex: very complex perhaps, and determining everything is working as it should is difficult and time consuming work: but the right-click options of partials/subharmonics etc of Ace is even worse! | 12:47 |
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