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| rgareus | with a port lv2:minimum -60; lv2:maximum 0.0; lv2:portProperty pprops:logarithmic; jalv complains: | 16:46 |
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| rgareus | (jalv.gtk:928): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_hscale_new_with_range: assertion `min < max' failed | 16:46 |
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| rgareus | is that supposed to work? how do you guys map a dB scale? | 16:46 |
| Anchakor_ | how about -60.0? | 16:51 |
| rgareus | Anchakor_: makes no differnce. | 17:02 |
| rgareus | Anchakor_: all values are float by default, anyway. | 17:02 |
| Anchakor_ | I dunno, might be a gtk thing, lets ping drobilla ;) | 17:03 |
| rgareus | aah well. a linear slider for dB works fine, as well. | 17:11 |
| rgareus | Calue > 0 and < +inf works for logscale controls. | 17:11 |
| rgareus | s/Calue/ a range/ | 17:12 |
| rgareus | since log(x) with x <=0 is not a rational number, I suppose gtk cannot handle it. | 17:13 |
| rgareus | though plugin-hosts could still map a logscale dB gain range in some sensible manner. | 17:15 |
| Anchakor_ | I used log scale controls just for freq. so I didn't encounter this issue | 17:15 |
| rgareus | Anchakor_: try -57 Hz :) | 17:16 |
| Anchakor_ | that is not a valid frequency :) | 17:17 |
| drobilla | rgareus: possibly because the types are different | 17:49 |
| drobilla | rgareus: Which is maybe a minor bug, but you should use floats for them all | 17:50 |
| drobilla | (it does make a difference in the RDF sense, "-60" is a different type of literal than "-60.0", though I thought this was sorted) | 17:50 |
| drobilla | there's also the negative thing. I dunno. Honestly very little thought has gone into jalv's logarithmic thingie (and I didn't write it) | 17:51 |
| drobilla | We should probably figure out and properly document this stuff... | 17:51 |
| rgareus | drobilla: -60.0 vs -60 makes no difference. | 17:51 |
| drobilla | rgareus: k. Thought that was sorted in lilv long ago, just the first thing I noticed | 17:52 |
| drobilla | and commented on before reading further :) | 17:52 |
| rgareus | drobilla: but jalv does not like negative numbers with log-scale (which is understandable) | 17:52 |
| rgareus | in retrospect using a linear-scale (with dB as unit) makes more sense anyway. | 17:53 |
| drobilla | is it reasonable to, say, shift it to 1..r, calculate the log bit, then shift it back? | 17:53 |
| drobilla | this argument is why there was no lv2:logarithmic | 17:54 |
| rgareus | drobilla: it's not unreasonable to shift it. | 17:54 |
| drobilla | though port-props is among the worst "too many extensions" offenders | 17:54 |
| * drobilla wishes he could have ridden the post-LAC wave to clean this stuff up, but y'know, real work and things... | 17:54 | |
| drobilla | rncbc: though I did clean up all the UI docs considerably, including but not limited to the stuff you mentioned | 17:54 |
| rgareus | drobilla: We're all still waiting for that zita-at1 LV2 :) | 17:55 |
| drobilla | It's literally on my screen right now, as it happens | 17:55 |
| drobilla | but clxclient won't let me specify a parent window | 17:55 |
| drobilla | I was just about to forward the half-baked thing to Fons | 17:56 |
| drobilla | (I did it last week) | 17:56 |
| rgareus | did he comment? | 17:56 |
| drobilla | haven't sent it yet | 17:56 |
| Anchakor_ | dB already are logarithmic | 17:57 |
| Anchakor_ | so linear scale makes more sense | 17:57 |
| drobilla | audio doesn't seem to actually work, so I guess I have to actually look into it more :/ | 17:58 |
| Anchakor_ | did lac make fons warmer to lv2? :) | 18:01 |
| drobilla | Something did, anyway :) | 18:02 |
| drobilla | More of a reluctant acceptance that it'll do stuff he needs, no doubt... but that's kind of what LV2 is for everyone | 18:02 |
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| * drobilla discovers serd "undefined namespace" error reporting bug needs an API change | 18:58 | |
| drobilla | damnit. | 18:58 |
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| drobilla | Also, I tried to simplify/friendly-ize the generated ontology docs, if anyone cares to build the docs from svn, feedback would be appreciated | 19:10 |
| drobilla | Still need to consider if alternate means of bringing code to the forefront is necessary, or if just some revision so the intros have plenty of links to relevant code docs willdo | 19:11 |
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