Monday, 2014-04-07

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HarryHaarenhey all13:09
HarryHaarendrobilla, i'm hoping to embed Lv2 UI's in NTK, is there much work to add that to SUIL? As you know I'm not very familiar with UI embedding, but its something that would be useful13:10
HarryHaaren(context: Javafant and I are working on an example Lv2Host C++ class / demo host thing) which can easily be incorperated into any program (Luppp, Javafant's project, and LMMS are the current targets)13:11
HarryHaarenafter that, hopefully we can see LV2 hosting support be added to more apps as there's a canonical implementation that's easy to incorperate13:12
HarryHaarenI'd love to see Lv2 in Audacity! :D13:12
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drobillaHarryHaaren: Use use the X11 stuff17:09
drobillaHarryHaaren: or more generally the native handle stuff, I suppose17:09
drobillaGenerally seems to be the way to go, will work currently, and I don't know if ntk has a stable enough ABI to do otherwise anyway (suspect not)17:09
drobillaThere are some things we can do to make native handles slightly nicer (see lv2-dev) but that's a bit of a side issue17:10
drobillaIf there actually is a stable ABI and there's some tangible benefit to adding a widget type it's a possibility, but AFAIK there isn't really17:11
HarryHaarenthat's fine for now: when I get time to look into this i might ask a few Q's, it'll be a week or 3 though :)17:11
HarryHaarenalso, we can just chat about it over a beer at the LAC17:12
HarryHaaren*or drink of choice17:12
drobillaAssuming I actually book those damned flights, yes :)17:12
* falktx had issues booking flights too17:13
falktxI had to ask my sister17:13
falktxHarryHaaren: for lmms you can already use suil qt stuff17:13
HarryHaarenyep17:13
HarryHaareni'm thinking Luppp NTK here ;)17:13
falktxwhat suil needs is a gtk-in-NTK and qt4-in-NTK17:13
falktxbut there's a lv2ui-side external API now17:14
drobillaI'm mostly just figuring out how I can galavant around Europe a bit without spending any more money :)17:18
drobillaWell, there sort of is, but it would be nice if it got actually used for something so a release could happen17:19
drobillaBuuuuuuuuut it's pretty unlikely I have the time for that this month17:19
falktxdrobilla: is there any plugin using it?17:20
drobillaI still think an API that gracefully degrades for UIs to use is a better solution anyway, but nobody seems into it17:20
drobillafalktx: Not as far as I know.17:20
falktxmaybe the gtk2 example should17:20
falktxthat would be a start17:20
drobillaThere is also the other axis of graceful degradation, allowing plugin to expose e.g. Gtk and X11 both in the "same" UI17:21
drobilla(or X11 and OSX and HWND, etc)17:21
drobillafalktx: yep17:21
falktxif there's a plugin using that API, I can try to make it work in my host17:22
falktxafaik there's no host or plugin using it right now17:22
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