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daeavelwyn2 | hi here | 02:08 |
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daeavelwyn2 | i'm trying to use carla linux native vst plugin into Reaper linux native to (yeah!) DAW | 02:09 |
daeavelwyn2 | it works ! | 02:09 |
daeavelwyn2 | but once plugin is loaded into carla (patchabay mode), I can't use my mouse to connect stuff | 02:10 |
daeavelwyn2 | clicking doesn't seems to work | 02:10 |
daeavelwyn2 | and can't drag and drop | 02:10 |
daeavelwyn2 | I also can't move block inside the patchbay vie | 02:12 |
daeavelwyn2 | view* | 02:13 |
daeavelwyn2 | i'm using carla from kxstudio repos | 02:14 |
daeavelwyn2 | and of course, I can make futher tests if needed to help to solve this | 02:14 |
bill-auger | im confused - isnt carla the kxstudio plugin host? why wuold anyone want run run a plugin host itself as a plugin of another plugin host | 02:22 |
bill-auger | the redundancy aside it surely adds an extra cycle of latency - what am i missing here | 02:23 |
JackWinter | you might want to load windows vsts, lv2 or something else into reaper, that at the moment only supports lvst and it's own plugs | 02:24 |
bill-auger | ok if i wanted to use windows VSTs in reaper i would use windows - but then you would not be able to use any nix plugins i suppose | 02:36 |
JackWinter | well diversity is good, no? carla does a lot of things which might be useful | 02:42 |
JackWinter | bill-auger: you'd be surprised how good wvst support is beginning to get in linux | 02:43 |
JackWinter | from my pov, the more toys you can have the better, doesn't mean you have to use it, but still just having the choice is a good thing | 02:44 |
JackWinter | say your composing on linux, would be nice to have professional libs running in kontakt, no? | 02:45 |
bill-auger | yes i only mean to say that adding extra latency is never a good idea - i would always want to stick with native | 02:46 |
bill-auger | and to determine if dave problem is really worth fixing - from what i understand now i would assume that simply running the standard stand-alone carla would give identical performance as trying to run it as a plugin | 02:47 |
bill-auger | the whole benefit of JACK is that you are not bound to running everything in the same proc inside a single DAW | 02:48 |
JackWinter | and why would it add latency? afaik it doesn't. might use slightly more cpu and be slightly more prone to xruns, but i can't really tell any difference anymore | 02:51 |
JackWinter | reaper also works with pure alsa, no midi in that case yet though | 02:52 |
JackWinter | i mean i can't tell much difference between using wvsts vs lvsts, though i use something called linvst to run win plugs | 02:53 |
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JackWinter | regarding jack, yes it allows a modular environment, but there is also a case to be made for a monolithic environment. no session management, everything saved in a single host | 02:54 |
JackWinter | different strokes and all that. | 02:55 |
JackWinter | in any case time for ZZzzzs, good festivus and best wishes! | 02:55 |
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falktx | daeavelwyn2: as always see if there's something in the logs, starting reaper from terminal | 10:27 |
falktx | there was an issue like this 1 year ago, but it got fixed quickly | 10:27 |
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daeavelwyn2 | falktx: ok, I gonna investigate more.here is the console output : https://pastebin.com/NeessGJF | 14:45 |
daeavelwyn2 | JackWinter: do you use kontakt with linvst ? | 14:46 |
JackWinter | not right now, but i have it installed and it works fairly well if you disable multicpu support | 14:49 |
JackWinter | daeavelwyn2: ^ | 14:50 |
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daeavelwyn2 | JackWinter: ok, I gonna give a try | 14:53 |
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JackWinter | daeavelwyn2: what is somewhat unfortunate is that NIs native access installer doesn't run..! | 14:59 |
JackWinter | but if you can install it from some older media then it works. I have Komplete8 and installed from that. | 15:00 |
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JackWinter | was a bit difficult as you have to mound the media with the udf and unhide options | 15:03 |
JackWinter | i think that was all, maybe it needed uid,gid too | 15:04 |
daeavelwyn2 | JackWinter: actually I can run kontakt 5.3.1 and it works fine, but higher version doesn't work with wine | 15:25 |
daeavelwyn2 | MSVCD120.dll issue already reported to wine dev | 15:25 |
daeavelwyn2 | and you are right, if only NI would make the effort for more linux support.... :-( | 15:26 |
daeavelwyn2 | in my professional used, i'm on win10/VEP/reaper, I haven't found a really stable and efficient solution on linux that can support such good libs as kontakt does | 15:27 |
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daeavelwyn2 | but regularly I'm take the time to try solution such as carla (which is from far the best one IMO for now) | 15:28 |
daeavelwyn2 | i'm taking* | 15:28 |
daeavelwyn2 | and native linux Reaper version is now really stable ! | 15:29 |
daeavelwyn2 | I think every audio project can be manage natively with native reaper on linux now | 15:29 |
daeavelwyn2 | but midi/samplers/specific windows stuff are still a pain :-/ | 15:30 |
JackWinter | daeavelwyn2: i think it runs with ms dll installed, but winehq will probably know. seem to remember something about changing windows version in wine too | 15:35 |
JackWinter | yeah, kontakt is more or less the only choice... nothing else around. maybe hise one day | 15:35 |
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falktx | no idea about this | 18:48 |
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