Wednesday, 2017-12-20

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OrsonHey06:41
OrsonOk I double-checked and tried again yesterday - the latest (1666475...) Carla does NOT restore saved states of bridged VST plugins06:43
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alextoneJackWinter, morning, been a while.10:45
JackWinter1hey alextone, hope things are good for you, and best wishes for the holidays!10:52
JackWinter1what's new on the linux orchestration front?10:53
alextoneJackWinter1, Same for you. Time off from driving over the holidays?10:53
alextoneJackWinter1, Still at it although i've taken some time out to write. 2 Scifi and 1 adventure in the process so far.10:54
JackWinter1yes in spain now, and no work.  though things started off badly, a death in my finacee's family, and another hospitalized, but he will apparently pull through.10:55
alextoneJackWinter1, My condolences to all concerned. I hope things pick up quickly for you.10:56
JackWinter1hey cool, i'm a great scifi fan, and read quite a lot.  reading neil asher at the moment10:57
JackWinter1thanks, and hope the same ;)10:57
JackWinter1btw, i remember last time we chatted you were trying to install from the komplete dvds, i finally remembered the important part mounting the media.  it needs to be udf, and you need to use the unhide option...10:58
alextoneJackWinter1, I've changed everything again. :)10:58
JackWinter1haha, what are you running nowdays?10:59
JackWinter1still kontakt i suppose?10:59
alextoneJackWinter1, Yes, still using Kontakt. I've just installed AVlinux 4.9 on a box that had windows 10 on it.10:59
JackWinter1then the unhide option might be useful11:00
alextoneJackWinter1, In fact i'm going through the motions of installing Kontakt at the moment. The cottage doesn't have internet, so i'm in the office trying to find the DLLs.11:01
JackWinter1i'm still a die hard linux user, haven't booted windows for ages, last time was just to update a w8 installation to w1011:01
JackWinter1though i do enjoy the occasional windows vst through linvst11:02
alextoneJackWinter1, Fuck windows. After 4 months with win10 ONLY for Kontakt, i'm done.11:02
JackWinter1i came to that conclusion years ago, but don't have the need you do for kontakt11:02
alextoneJackWinter1, I've put win7 on another box, and i'm going to use that as some sort of muse receptor equivalent.11:03
alextoneJackWinter1, I'll put all the win stuff on that, and use Jack for Win to talk with the linux box.11:04
alextoneJackWinter1, I've kinda shelved it for the last month, as i've been writing like a maniac.11:04
alextoneJackWinter1, But i'm here today to D/L all the bits i need for linuxsampler, as it's not on the AVLinux DVD.11:06
JackWinter1oh, getting ready for gnu licensing violations ;)11:07
JackWinter1we had a discussion about this just yesterday :)11:07
alextoneJackWinter1, Yes indeed. :)11:08
alextoneJackWinter1, Wish i'd been here, but the snow is a meter high around the cottage, and i spent all yesterday digging.11:08
JackWinter1urgh, happy i'm far away from the snow...11:08
alextoneJackWinter1, You know how i love a discussion about the assholes trying to make our lives more difficult. :)11:09
JackWinter1imo something to be enjoyed in vacation time11:09
alextoneJackWinter1, It's getting less each year. We just had a lot at once about a week ago.11:09
alextoneJackWinter1, I'm at nearly 1000m above sea level, so it melts more slowly.11:10
JackWinter1what always got me regarding LS, is the amount of shit those guys have had to listen to, just for releasing code.  but then again i'm not a laywer and i don't understand all the aspects of the gnu license...11:10
alextoneJackWinter1, If the corporates weren't trying to crush everything not theirs, none of this would happen.11:11
JackWinter1yeah, well please don't start me on my political hobby horses ;)11:13
JackWinter1i've given up.  let's just make the best of the years that remain to us, and let future generations face the mass extinction and climate change.  the moneybags will die just as well as the poor.  will take a couple of million years, and then nature will give some other animal a chance to create a viable society and to reach for the stars11:15
alextoneJackWinter1, Yes me neither.11:15
alextoneJackWinter1, I'm working hard towards self sufficiency. Just swapped the old electric water pump for a solar version, and i've made enquiries on a water windmill.11:16
JackWinter1in the mean time, we surround ourselves with nice people, eat well, and make love to a nice woman and make music.  what more can we ask for ;)11:16
JackWinter1that's a laudable goal!11:17
alextoneJackWinter1, I won't go into detail about my permaculture forest, or the greenhouses. :)11:17
JackWinter1hey, fantastic.  self grown vegetables are great11:19
JackWinter1personally i've started a new hobby, namely learning to make kick ass pizza :)  already miles ahead of most pizzerias!11:19
JackWinter1even bought a special oven that let's me cook them at close to 500C11:20
JackWinter1your scifi, is it published?  i'd like to read them at some moment11:21
alextoneJackWinter1, Not yet. I started about 4 months ago, and i was already busy with lots of other things. I'll let you know though.11:21
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JackWinter1love my kindle, have it with me at all times, and whenever i have to wait for something i read.  normally read a while before going to bed too11:22
alextoneJackWinter1, I've got a Samsung tablet for the same reason. The train trip down to the office is about an hour, so i get time to read both ways.11:23
JackWinter1though amazon being in the middle is probably very bad for the authors...:S11:23
alextoneJackWinter1, It is, i've read some horror stories. There are others, it's just taking the time to figure out just how good or bad they are.11:24
JackWinter1possibly a magnitude more bad than youtube, spotify, et al are for musicians11:24
alextoneJackWinter1, Authors get very little from Amazon, and i've read tales of writers not getting paid, and having to go to court to retrieve earnings.11:24
alextoneJackWinter1, Like most corporates.11:25
JackWinter1we come back to the same....11:25
JackWinter1do you know baker street, it has possibly the most iconic sax solo of all times...11:25
alextoneJackWinter1, I played that solo for many many years in bands.11:26
JackWinter1the sax player raphael ravenscroft played it under union rules and recieved a cheque for 27 pounds which bounced...  he never saw a dime for that performance...  nothing new in this world i guess11:29
alextoneJackWinter1, I remember the story.11:30
JackWinter1plenty of other stories like that around11:30
alextoneJackWinter1, Yes there are.11:30
alextoneJackWinter1, A few years ago, i had a season doing big band work in Thailand. We had to threaten the promoter on the last night for our pay, and when we left the premises, a gang of assholes tried to releive us of our earnings. Turns out he was connected with some local hard cases, and if we weren't registered at our hotel, it's likely we would have been taken for a one way trip to the countryside.11:32
alextoneJackWinter1, That's why i used to use a contract i had drawn up by an expert. No sign, no play. I lost a few gigs that way, but they were usually the types to try and rip everyone off, so i didn't really miss anything.11:34
alextoneJackWinter1, I did work for a radio station in Sydney who wouldn't pay on time, and i ended up going legal. They were 'owned' by RCA through a local company listing. Horrible people.11:36
JackWinter1i'm sure you didn't11:36
alextoneJackWinter1, The head of that company was the president of the musicians union at the time. :)11:36
JackWinter1i really like performing in france...  you come to the venue, they put a contract in front of you, you sign and then you get your money, all before playing a single note11:36
JackWinter1that doesn't mean anything.11:37
alextoneJackWinter1, Yep, that's how it should be.11:37
JackWinter1do you remember rock collection from laurent voulzy?  he got not a dime from his PRO as he hadn't paid the membership fees...11:42
JackWinter1they kept it all for themselves11:42
alextoneJackWinter1, Sadly again, not surprised.11:43
JackWinter1must have brought in shedloads of revenue, was very popular back in the day11:44
JackWinter1i've also been stiffed several times, am also at the point if i don't know and trust the venue i don't play unless we have a contract and money up front...11:45
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JackWinter1but never been accosted after the gig, that's nearly a new low...11:46
alextoneJackWinter1, It's southeast asia. Bands in Bangkok are usually armed, or have armed security.11:52
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alextoneJackWinter1, Hong Kong, Macau, etc...11:53
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