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| falktx | localhorse: DO NOT use normal widget toolkits for plugins | 09:07 |
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| falktx | please! | 09:07 |
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| localhorse | falktx: but it's a lot of work to write a gui toolkit from scratch.. | 10:12 |
| localhorse | also, what is "normal" | 10:12 |
| xkr47 | is there a guide somewhere? | 10:12 |
| JackWinter | localhorse: the problems is somewhat that it will cause problems when a host or other plugins use the same toolkit... i think both gtk and qt might be troublesome, apparently juce might work though | 10:23 |
| localhorse | JackWinter: do they use global variables to store gui state? | 10:25 |
| localhorse | or threadlocal? | 10:25 |
| JackWinter | not sure, you might get away with linking the toolkit statically and hiding the symbols, i just know very little about this as it interests me. am not a linux plugin developer | 10:26 |
| JackWinter | you might also find more devs at #lad | 10:26 |
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| falktx | localhorse: there's symbol conflicts between toolkits, among other issues | 11:54 |
| falktx | writing your own toolkit if not good either. use what others did already | 11:55 |
| falktx | *is not good | 11:55 |
| falktx | pugl has become quite used in plugins, for the window abstraction | 11:56 |
| falktx | then you find some opengl/cairo graphics mini-api to put on top | 11:56 |
| falktx | moony for example https://open-music-kontrollers.ch/lv2/moony/ | 11:56 |
| LAbot | Title: Open Music Kontrollers (at open-music-kontrollers.ch) | 11:56 |
| falktx | it uses pugl + nk | 11:57 |
| falktx | for my own plugins I use pugl and opengl textures (bitmaps), with some nanovg too | 11:58 |
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| rgareus | +1 for pugl. openGL is very well spec'ed and binary compatible since maybe 2002 (if you stay with openGl 1.2, textures no fancy shaders) | 13:12 |
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| DrNI | hi there it's me again | 13:17 |
| DrNI | concerning low-latency on kxstudio 16.04 (not vanilla kxstudio)... very easy: | 13:18 |
| DrNI | apt-get install linux-lowlatency | 13:18 |
| DrNI | reboot | 13:18 |
| DrNI | cadence then shows that lowlatency is on (I gave the audio group realtime permissions in limits.conf somehwere) | 13:18 |
| DrNI | very good | 13:18 |
| rgareus | what does linux-lowlatency do compared to vanilla-linux and a true preempt-rt kernel? | 13:19 |
| DrNI | well, what it does exactly, that I do not know | 13:20 |
| DrNI | but the effect is that i do not get any audio dropouts anymore | 13:20 |
| DrNI | running jack with cadenc snd-aloop daemon | 13:20 |
| rgareus | USB soundcard? | 13:20 |
| DrNI | no, builtin in laptop | 13:21 |
| DrNI | I did not get dropouts in ardour using jack | 13:21 |
| DrNI | but I use the loopback thing of alsa as first audio device for normal applications | 13:21 |
| DrNI | and it caused me dropouts, especially when lots of graphics was going on | 13:21 |
| DrNI | (I do not use pulse, it sucks) | 13:22 |
| DrNI | now what's missing is the selection of the cpu performance governor. | 13:22 |
| DrNI | on my machine at home (now at my office) some LV2s do not operate properly when not in high performance mode | 13:22 |
| DrNI | ok got that fixed: apt-get install indicator-cpufreq | 13:24 |
| DrNI | but my office machine here is much faster than the one at home, so not an issue. money and machine of the company | 13:24 |
| DrNI | actually I work freelance for audio but since I do audio also in my daytime job, I'm doing the experiments here ;) | 13:24 |
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| localhorse | falktx: thx. what do you mean by 'nk'? | 19:12 |
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| localhorse | nk = nuklear? | 20:14 |
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