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redraw | falktx | 01:06 |
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redraw | falktx: is there a place to read what's the difference between ALSA -> Loop -> JACK vs ALSA -> PulseAudio -> JACK? | 01:07 |
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redraw | if I have a big setup made in Carla, and I want to save it for later use, can I open Claudia to save a LADISH session of that? | 02:52 |
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wolftune | redraw: ALSA loop JACK means software that is set up to access ALSA directly goes through JACK | 05:03 |
wolftune | redraw: ALSA Pulseaudio JACK means, I think (guessing), that the ALSA programs show up as something in PulseAudio, and that goes to JACK… | 05:04 |
redraw | wolftune, makes sense | 05:07 |
redraw | not sure which is more stable? | 05:07 |
wolftune | I'd like to read more myself | 05:07 |
wolftune | please ping me if you find out more | 05:08 |
redraw | sure. i'm learning too =) | 05:09 |
redraw | some things are very confusing, but seems powerful | 05:09 |
wolftune | redraw: strangely, I was able to turn off *all* ALSA bridges and still have Audacity work in ALSA mode | 05:12 |
wolftune | I'm not sure which, if any, programs I have nowadays that benefit from or otherwise use ALSA directly but don't natively support JACK | 05:13 |
wolftune | Firefox made me accept having PulseAudio | 05:13 |
redraw | wolftune, I guess apps can directly use ALSA besides JACK's server is running | 05:14 |
redraw | like Audacity | 05:14 |
wolftune | I guess so | 05:14 |
wolftune | and it might be nice to have such apps be available to JACK, which is the point of the bridge I guess | 05:14 |
wolftune | but when I used to use Firefox without Pulse, I *needed* the bridge on. Firefox could NOT play directly to ALSA because JACK was using it… | 05:15 |
redraw | so Audacity is available through bridge right? | 05:15 |
wolftune | I had NO alsa bridge on, and Audacity still worked in ALSA mode, no idea how | 05:16 |
wolftune | I guess it accesses it more directly than Firefox used to | 05:16 |
wolftune | I think you've prompted me to skip the ALSA bridge entirely and just use the Pulse bridge (third Cadence tab) and see if I ever have issues | 05:17 |
redraw | would try that | 05:17 |
wolftune | I think it will work, every program will either just work with JACK or will be bridged through Pulse… | 05:18 |
redraw | but there's information on which is more stable | 05:18 |
wolftune | we'll see | 05:18 |
redraw | seems like the default alsa->loop->jack should be better | 05:19 |
wolftune | I'm not going to use ALSA -> PulseAudio -> JACK | 05:19 |
wolftune | I'm going to use "none" | 05:19 |
wolftune | and just have the pulse bridge (again, separate tab entirely) | 05:19 |
redraw | so JACK started | 05:21 |
redraw | but no audio bridge? or no pulse bridge? | 05:21 |
redraw | ah. you mean no audio bridge. but pulse bridge enabled | 05:22 |
redraw | one annoying thing is that all hardware inputs are not exposed in Carla/Claudia | 05:23 |
redraw | you have to manually search devices running `arecord -L` | 05:23 |
redraw | and then starting a new Jack client doing `alsa_in -d [device] -j [display name]` | 05:24 |
wolftune | huh? | 05:27 |
wolftune | well, if you want to use multiple devices | 05:27 |
wolftune | all inputs from a single device are exposed, the device set for JACK | 05:27 |
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ahellquist|wrk | falktx, from where are the kxstudio lowlatency kernels fetched ? (i am on another computer so can't check for myself) | 07:03 |
falktx | ahellquist|wrk: there are no kxstudio kernels. you get them from your distro, I guess ubuntu | 07:21 |
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ahellquist|wrk | falktx, ok, thanks | 07:40 |
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wolftune | Task Coach got an unsolicited invite from http://luminati.io — weird, fascinating idea | 14:17 |
wolftune | They are a proxy service designed to provide neutral web access to end-users and bot-scrapers alike by using a decentralized network of millions of people's cell phones | 14:18 |
wolftune | they charge for the use of the proxy and aim to get cell-phones included in the network by making resource-sharing a way to "pay" for proprietary apps instead of dollars or ads | 14:19 |
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wolftune | oops, kinda unrelated, meant to post that in a different channel ^ oh well | 15:17 |
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