Tuesday, 2017-08-08

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redrawfalktx01:06
redrawfalktx: is there a place to read what's the difference between ALSA -> Loop -> JACK vs ALSA -> PulseAudio -> JACK?01:07
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redrawif I have a big setup made in Carla, and I want to save it for later use, can I open Claudia to save a LADISH session of that?02:52
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wolftuneredraw: ALSA loop JACK means software that is set up to access ALSA directly goes through JACK05:03
wolftuneredraw: ALSA Pulseaudio JACK means, I think (guessing), that the ALSA programs show up as something in PulseAudio, and that goes to JACK…05:04
redrawwolftune, makes sense05:07
redrawnot sure which is more stable?05:07
wolftuneI'd like to read more myself05:07
wolftuneplease ping me if you find out more05:08
redrawsure. i'm learning too =)05:09
redrawsome things are very confusing, but seems powerful05:09
wolftuneredraw: strangely, I was able to turn off *all* ALSA bridges and still have Audacity work in ALSA mode05:12
wolftuneI'm not sure which, if any, programs I have nowadays that benefit from or otherwise use ALSA directly but don't natively support JACK05:13
wolftuneFirefox made me accept having PulseAudio05:13
redrawwolftune, I guess apps can directly use ALSA besides JACK's server is running05:14
redrawlike Audacity05:14
wolftuneI guess so05:14
wolftuneand it might be nice to have such apps be available to JACK, which is the point of the bridge I guess05:14
wolftunebut when I used to use Firefox without Pulse, I *needed* the bridge on. Firefox could NOT play directly to ALSA because JACK was using it…05:15
redrawso Audacity is available through bridge right?05:15
wolftuneI had NO alsa bridge on, and Audacity still worked in ALSA mode, no idea how05:16
wolftuneI guess it accesses it more directly than Firefox used to05:16
wolftuneI think you've prompted me to skip the ALSA bridge entirely and just use the Pulse bridge (third Cadence tab) and see if I ever have issues05:17
redrawwould try that05:17
wolftuneI think it will work, every program will either just work with JACK or will be bridged through Pulse…05:18
redrawbut there's information on which is more stable05:18
wolftunewe'll see05:18
redrawseems like the default alsa->loop->jack should be better05:19
wolftuneI'm not going to use ALSA -> PulseAudio -> JACK05:19
wolftuneI'm going to use "none"05:19
wolftuneand just have the pulse bridge (again, separate tab entirely)05:19
redrawso JACK started05:21
redrawbut no audio bridge? or no pulse bridge?05:21
redrawah. you mean no audio bridge. but pulse bridge enabled05:22
redrawone annoying thing is that all hardware inputs are not exposed in Carla/Claudia05:23
redrawyou have to manually search devices running `arecord -L`05:23
redrawand then starting a new Jack client doing `alsa_in -d [device] -j [display name]`05:24
wolftunehuh?05:27
wolftunewell, if you want to use multiple devices05:27
wolftuneall inputs from a single device are exposed, the device set for JACK05:27
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ahellquist|wrkfalktx, from where are the kxstudio lowlatency kernels fetched ? (i am on another computer so can't check for myself)07:03
falktxahellquist|wrk: there are no kxstudio kernels. you get them from your distro, I guess ubuntu07:21
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ahellquist|wrkfalktx, ok, thanks07:40
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wolftuneTask Coach got an unsolicited invite from http://luminati.io — weird, fascinating idea14:17
wolftuneThey are a proxy service designed to provide neutral web access to end-users and bot-scrapers alike by using a decentralized network of millions of people's cell phones14:18
wolftunethey charge for the use of the proxy and aim to get cell-phones included in the network by making resource-sharing a way to "pay" for proprietary apps instead of dollars or ads14:19
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wolftuneoops, kinda unrelated, meant to post that in a different channel ^ oh well15:17
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