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| extinct_potato | Hello. I cannot install guitarix with kxstudio repos in Ubuntu Xenial. Can someone help me? | 11:45 |
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| extinct_potato | For no apparent reason my package manager prefers 'trusty' version, which will not install as it conflicts with versions or dependencies. | 11:47 |
| extinct_potato | When I try to force kxstudio version in Synaptic, it reverts to trusty. | 11:47 |
| extinct_potato | I can select 'xenial' version just fine, but I would prefer not to do it, as I don't want to mix audio apps from xenial and kxstudio repos. | 11:48 |
| bill-auger | it is probably due t the version numbers | 11:48 |
| bill-auger | whichever package has higher version number will be prefered | 11:49 |
| bill-auger | if you know the version you want you can install it explicitly on the command line | 11:50 |
| bill-auger | or just disable the ubuntu repos | 11:50 |
| extinct_potato | how do i select the version number in cli bill-auger ? | 11:53 |
| bill-auger | disabling the ubuntu repos is a better idea reaslly | 11:54 |
| bill-auger | you can try sudo apt install the-package/kxstudio | 11:55 |
| bill-auger | if that doesnt work use sudo apt install the-package=version | 11:55 |
| extinct_potato | if i try to install kxstudio version it complains about dependencies that it cannot resolve | 11:58 |
| extinct_potato | libatkmm-1.6-1 (>= 2.22.1) | 11:58 |
| extinct_potato | stuffs like that | 11:58 |
| extinct_potato | libcairomm-1.0-1 (>= 1.6.4) | 11:58 |
| extinct_potato | libglibmm-2.4-1c2a | 11:59 |
| bill-auger | then you messed up your system - probably by installing ubuntu packages | 11:59 |
| extinct_potato | the problem is that i can't remember myself installing these packages | 11:59 |
| extinct_potato | oh yeaaaah. libatk is pretty important, turns out. | 12:00 |
| extinct_potato | and yes, it's ubuntu package. | 12:00 |
| extinct_potato | maybe debian's version is older and kxstudio conforms to debian. | 12:01 |
| extinct_potato | shoot. so i can't install guitarix. | 12:01 |
| bill-auger | guitarix is a default kxstudio [ackage | 12:01 |
| bill-auger | just install kxstudio-meta-audio | 12:02 |
| bill-auger | if that failed you have messed things up - the easiest thing to do is re-install and do not update any ubuntu packages | 12:03 |
| bill-auger | kxstudio-meta-audio-plugins | 12:03 |
| extinct_potato | i can install kxstudio-meta-audio | 12:03 |
| extinct_potato | btw, can you tell me how i would go about removing kxrepos and reverting packages to ubuntu? | 12:05 |
| bill-auger | im not sure how easy it is to revert - but im not sure why you woud want to | 12:06 |
| bill-auger | the ubuntu packages are probably newer so you would just uninstall kxstudio* everything | 12:07 |
| extinct_potato | not really. kxstudio has newer jack stuff for example. | 12:07 |
| extinct_potato | and why i want to remove it? i'm not sure how long will kxstudio last to be honest.. | 12:08 |
| bill-auger | the best thing to do for you workstation is to set it up once and never update anything except for kxstudio - and use your workstations only for audio work | 12:09 |
| bill-auger | then have a separate OS for everyday usage where you can experiment and dont care if you break it | 12:09 |
| bill-auger | what do you mean how long it will last? | 12:10 |
| bill-auger | kxstudio has been around for many years now | 12:10 |
| extinct_potato | i'm not sure how long will kxstudio guys keep on maintaining the project, and if they stop, i don't want to be left with broken os :( | 12:11 |
| bill-auger | kxstudio has its own distro cased on ubuntu 14.04 - this is perect for workstation | 12:11 |
| extinct_potato | i see. oh, maybe that's why guitarix can't install on my xenial? 14.04 got ancient libatkmm packages. | 12:12 |
| bill-auger | that is a misunderstanding - if you do what i said you can not break your OS | 12:12 |
| extinct_potato | i know bill-auger, but i would love to have everything on my main OS. | 12:13 |
| bill-auger | it does not matter if anyone ever updates kxstudio again - if it works today it will work on that same computer forever | 12:13 |
| bill-auger | having everything on one OS is a very bad idea | 12:13 |
| bill-auger | the problem you are having right now is a perfect example of why it is a bad idea | 12:14 |
| extinct_potato | yeah, now i see that. | 12:14 |
| bill-auger | just download kxstudio distro and install that and be happy | 12:14 |
| extinct_potato | yeah, i think will do so | 12:14 |
| extinct_potato | * i will | 12:14 |
| extinct_potato | but i will post to forums nevertheless | 12:15 |
| bill-auger | but do not use it for web browsing or playing games or anything else - use it just for music and it will stay running clean for very long time | 12:15 |
| extinct_potato | that's true | 12:15 |
| extinct_potato | btw, it's such a shame that we don't have professional audio synths like Native Instruments | 12:16 |
| extinct_potato | Linux is really suitable for audio, more than Windows in my opinion but it's still not popular | 12:16 |
| extinct_potato | i mean, how can you use OS that is prone to virus attacks for pro audio? | 12:16 |
| extinct_potato | ridiculous. | 12:16 |
| bill-auger | is that important to be popular? | 12:16 |
| extinct_potato | it is | 12:17 |
| extinct_potato | because plugin devs don't recognize it as a platform they can earn money on | 12:17 |
| extinct_potato | and they don't because it's not popular, not many people use it = small profit, if any. | 12:17 |
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| bill-auger | thats a good thing - people make better tools when there is no money involved | 12:18 |
| extinct_potato | i would say the opposite | 12:18 |
| extinct_potato | i mean, i respect all libre plugin devs | 12:18 |
| extinct_potato | but they don't cut it in comparison to NI or u-He for instance | 12:19 |
| bill-auger | in that case the best thing you can do is never buy anything from that company and write them an email telling them so | 12:19 |
| bill-auger | then if you really like paying for your tools then support only companies that do target linux and write them a letter thanking them :) | 12:20 |
| extinct_potato | do you know of any pro audio companies that do so? | 12:20 |
| extinct_potato | i don't really. | 12:20 |
| extinct_potato | but you've got the point tho | 12:21 |
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