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MountainX_ | In Cadence, I can't get the snd-aloop daemon to start. | 01:27 |
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MountainX_ | My alsa app gives this error: "Critical: Cannot open ALSA driver for PCM playback: No such device" | 01:27 |
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ShalokShalom_ | falktx`: hi there, i see the Carla-beta4 is from May 2015, the current release from 2 1/2 years ago, is there a release in the near future? | 08:50 |
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ShalokShalom | March 2015 | 08:51 |
DoverMo | ShalokShalom: try packing the git version | 09:00 |
ShalokShalom | k | 09:00 |
ShalokShalom | so the latest commit? | 09:00 |
ShalokShalom | or the 1 year old version? | 09:00 |
ShalokShalom | i like the experimental plugins, do they get updates in the meanwhile? anything more stable since then? | 09:01 |
falktx` | there will be a new release soon | 09:04 |
falktx` | I was working for v1.0 for the MOD team. now that 1.0 is out perhaps things will slow down a little | 09:05 |
falktx` | or so I hope! | 09:05 |
falktx` | I need to get some time and motivation to work on all kx related stuff again | 09:05 |
ShalokShalom | 1.0? | 09:12 |
ShalokShalom | MOD? | 09:12 |
ShalokShalom | anyway, i am happy to read that :) | 09:12 |
ShalokShalom | falktx`: current commit or beta4? | 09:13 |
ShalokShalom | or is there any recommended commit to build? | 09:13 |
falktx` | ShalokShalom: always build latest git | 09:13 |
ShalokShalom | ok | 09:13 |
ShalokShalom | thanks | 09:13 |
falktx` | and by mod I mean this http://moddevices.com/ | 09:14 |
LAbot` | Title: MOD Devices (at moddevices.com) | 09:14 |
falktx` | I'm part of the core team :D | 09:14 |
ShalokShalom | so the features are in freeze? | 09:14 |
falktx` | kinda yes | 09:14 |
falktx` | need to fix a few bugs and then 2.0-beta5 will be ready | 09:14 |
falktx` | nothing major | 09:14 |
ShalokShalom | ok, fine | 09:15 |
ShalokShalom | i wait for beta5 then | 09:15 |
ShalokShalom | build it for the community repo of our distro | 09:15 |
ShalokShalom | what is left for the stable release? | 09:16 |
falktx` | polish and finish what I started | 09:16 |
falktx` | it's not that it's unstable. it's that I did not 100% finish the new features I added | 09:16 |
falktx` | they are marked as experimental in the settings... | 09:17 |
ShalokShalom | ah, ok | 09:17 |
ShalokShalom | i see | 09:17 |
ShalokShalom | thanks a lot | 09:17 |
ShalokShalom | great | 09:17 |
ShalokShalom | so, the new features, which are already implemented are stable and some more are missing? | 09:18 |
ShalokShalom | or incomplete | 09:18 |
falktx` | incomplete, unfinished | 09:18 |
falktx` | the bridges need more work to handle errors | 09:18 |
ShalokShalom | ah ok | 09:18 |
falktx` | see https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A2.0-beta5 | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | plugin bridges for 32 on 64 bit? | 09:19 |
falktx` | yes | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | we are pure 64 Bit, so thats perfect as it is | 09:19 |
falktx` | and wine (windows) plugins | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | same | 09:19 |
falktx` | cool | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | WINE = 32 | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | how to build without that stuff? | 09:19 |
falktx` | it's not built by default | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | just not use the depends? | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | ah, fine | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | perfect | 09:19 |
ShalokShalom | so its already like a stable release for us | 09:20 |
ShalokShalom | perfect | 09:20 |
falktx` | it's really almost there... | 09:20 |
falktx` | I think there might be a new issue when using very fresh/new distros about locking. need to look into it | 09:21 |
falktx` | the behaviour of semaphores/mutexes keeps changing in libc :/ | 09:21 |
ShalokShalom | very fresh because of gcc6? | 09:23 |
ShalokShalom | ah libc | 09:24 |
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ShalokShalom | we use 2.32 here, build with gcc 5.4 | 09:25 |
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DoverMoo | hm | 09:26 |
* falktx` is installing trinity | 09:29 | |
DoverMoo | trinity yeahyeah | 09:31 |
ShalokShalom | haha | 09:33 |
ShalokShalom | unhappy with plasma5 on bugbuntu? | 09:33 |
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falktx` | bugs and bad performance are a terrible combo | 09:34 |
falktx` | qt5 was supposed to be faster! | 09:35 |
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falktx` | brb, testing trinity | 09:35 |
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jim | what's a trinity? | 10:40 |
ShalokShalom | DE | 10:41 |
jim | oh ok | 10:41 |
jim | thanks | 10:41 |
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falktx | wow, kde5 apps are broken when used on non kde desktops | 10:45 |
falktx | I had to create a special launcher so that kde5 apps think they're running in plasma... | 10:45 |
falktx | just so they respect their own settings | 10:45 |
falktx | jeez | 10:45 |
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ShalokShalom | falktx: that is ubunut | 10:52 |
ShalokShalom | we use plasma5 since Feb 15 | 10:53 |
ShalokShalom | perfect stable here | 10:53 |
falktx | yes | 10:53 |
falktx | but do you use plasma too? | 10:53 |
ShalokShalom | yep | 10:53 |
falktx | I'm talking about running kde stuff like dolphin on non-plasma desktops | 10:53 |
ShalokShalom | i mean your previous comments | 10:53 |
ShalokShalom | yep | 10:53 |
ShalokShalom | no option for me | 10:53 |
ShalokShalom | [11:34:50] <falktx`> bugs and bad performance are a terrible combo | 10:54 |
ShalokShalom | [11:35:01] <falktx`> qt5 was supposed to be faster! | 10:54 |
falktx | apps that use "systrays" don't even start | 10:54 |
ShalokShalom | idk about other DEs | 10:54 |
falktx | let me show you | 10:55 |
ShalokShalom | why Trinity? | 10:55 |
falktx | here is dolphin https://i.imgur.com/nVG0e7H.png | 10:55 |
falktx | ShalokShalom: I like kde, but I'd like something that works good... | 10:55 |
ShalokShalom | yep | 10:55 |
ShalokShalom | work perfect here | 10:55 |
falktx | multi-monitor? | 10:56 |
ShalokShalom | no | 10:56 |
ShalokShalom | thats the main issue today | 10:56 |
ShalokShalom | both, on X and Wayland | 10:56 |
falktx | it's one of them | 10:56 |
falktx | random hangs and crashes | 10:56 |
ShalokShalom | you ever try KaOS? | 10:56 |
ShalokShalom | only thing to adjust here is output module | 10:56 |
ShalokShalom | XRender works for all | 10:56 |
falktx | don't want to leave ubuntu | 10:56 |
ShalokShalom | for? | 10:58 |
ShalokShalom | such nice bugs? :D | 10:59 |
falktx | support for the kx repos | 10:59 |
ShalokShalom | aha, ok | 10:59 |
falktx | pretty much everyone runs ubuntu | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | what does this mean? | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | and= | 11:00 |
falktx | so that's what I'm in | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | pretty much everone runs Windows | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | tzz | 11:00 |
falktx | I kinda support that too in my apps | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | what means "support for kx repos" | 11:00 |
falktx | keeping things working in general | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | i am on the way to package Carla and co | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | yeah | 11:00 |
falktx | I updated to 16.04 because of it | 11:00 |
ShalokShalom | i see, how they work | 11:00 |
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falktx | meh, neither kde5 or trinity is what I expect | 11:22 |
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MountainX_ | I'm running KDE on Arch | 15:22 |
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ShalokShalom | falktx: again, you blame KDE for packaging issues | 16:56 |
ShalokShalom | like many others do | 16:56 |
ShalokShalom | including KDE devs even | 16:56 |
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falktx | packaging issues? | 17:48 |
falktx | how is akregator crashing when opening certain urls a package issue? | 17:48 |
falktx | how is the entire desktop hanging when connecting to a network a package issue? | 17:49 |
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ShalokShalom | falktx: Akregator maybe, because they use KHTML, while we choose QtWebEngine | 18:50 |
ShalokShalom | Open URLs works here | 18:50 |
falktx | I should rant less.. | 18:50 |
ShalokShalom | where did you rant? | 18:51 |
ShalokShalom | its a bit different for me now, to test the network issue | 18:53 |
ShalokShalom | i guess you mean a local network, yes? | 19:00 |
falktx | wifi | 19:01 |
falktx | the taskbar does not work while connecting | 19:01 |
falktx | I think I read somewhere that this is because plasma widgets run in a single thread | 19:01 |
ShalokShalom | that works here | 19:24 |
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MountainX_ | falktx: I have no problems with that either | 19:29 |
ShalokShalom | MountainX_: OS? | 19:32 |
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MountainX_ | ShalokShalom: I'm running Arch | 21:47 |
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MountainX_ | For a sample rate of 44100, what buffer size and period should I use for basic spoken word recording? | 23:02 |
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wolftune | MountainX_: there's no need for any special buffer size and period for spoken word. Those concerns are for precise timing with low latency for recording along with existing musical tracks or playing synths etc | 23:21 |
wolftune | if you are wanting to hear your ownlive source *with* effects or whatever, you need low latency | 23:22 |
wolftune | for just recording, even musical parts where the sound source is outside the computer, then low buffer doesn't even matter | 23:23 |
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