Saturday, 2016-07-16

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MountainX_In Cadence, I can't get the snd-aloop daemon to start.01:27
MountainX_My alsa app gives this error: "Critical: Cannot open ALSA driver for PCM playback: No such device"01:27
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ShalokShalom_falktx`: hi there, i see the Carla-beta4 is from May 2015, the current release from 2 1/2 years ago, is there a release in the near future?08:50
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ShalokShalomMarch 201508:51
DoverMoShalokShalom: try packing the git version09:00
ShalokShalomk09:00
ShalokShalomso the latest commit?09:00
ShalokShalomor the 1 year old version?09:00
ShalokShalomi like the experimental plugins, do they get updates in the meanwhile? anything more stable since then?09:01
falktx`there will be a new release soon09:04
falktx`I was working for v1.0 for the MOD team. now that 1.0 is out perhaps things will slow down a little09:05
falktx`or so I hope!09:05
falktx`I need to get some time and motivation to work on all kx related stuff again09:05
ShalokShalom1.0?09:12
ShalokShalomMOD?09:12
ShalokShalomanyway, i am happy to read that :)09:12
ShalokShalomfalktx`: current commit or beta4?09:13
ShalokShalomor is there any recommended commit to build?09:13
falktx`ShalokShalom: always build latest git09:13
ShalokShalomok09:13
ShalokShalomthanks09:13
falktx`and by mod I mean this http://moddevices.com/09:14
LAbot`Title: MOD Devices (at moddevices.com)09:14
falktx`I'm part of the core team :D09:14
ShalokShalomso the features are in freeze?09:14
falktx`kinda yes09:14
falktx`need to fix a few bugs and then 2.0-beta5 will be ready09:14
falktx`nothing major09:14
ShalokShalomok, fine09:15
ShalokShalomi wait for beta5 then09:15
ShalokShalombuild it for the community repo of our distro09:15
ShalokShalomwhat is left for the stable release?09:16
falktx`polish and finish what I started09:16
falktx`it's not that it's unstable. it's that I did not 100% finish the new features I added09:16
falktx`they are marked as experimental in the settings...09:17
ShalokShalomah, ok09:17
ShalokShalomi see09:17
ShalokShalomthanks a lot09:17
ShalokShalomgreat09:17
ShalokShalomso, the new features, which are already implemented are stable and some more are missing?09:18
ShalokShalomor incomplete09:18
falktx`incomplete, unfinished09:18
falktx`the bridges need more work to handle errors09:18
ShalokShalomah ok09:18
falktx`see https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A2.0-beta509:19
ShalokShalomplugin bridges for 32 on 64 bit?09:19
falktx`yes09:19
ShalokShalomwe are pure 64 Bit, so thats perfect as it is09:19
falktx`and wine (windows) plugins09:19
ShalokShalomsame09:19
falktx`cool09:19
ShalokShalomWINE = 3209:19
ShalokShalomhow to build without that stuff?09:19
falktx`it's not built by default09:19
ShalokShalomjust not use the depends?09:19
ShalokShalomah, fine09:19
ShalokShalomperfect09:19
ShalokShalomso its already like a stable release for us09:20
ShalokShalomperfect09:20
falktx`it's really almost there...09:20
falktx`I think there might be a new issue when using very fresh/new distros about locking. need to look into it09:21
falktx`the behaviour of semaphores/mutexes keeps changing in libc :/09:21
ShalokShalomvery fresh because of gcc6?09:23
ShalokShalomah libc09:24
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ShalokShalomwe use 2.32 here, build with gcc 5.409:25
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DoverMoohm09:26
* falktx` is installing trinity09:29
DoverMootrinity yeahyeah09:31
ShalokShalomhaha09:33
ShalokShalomunhappy with plasma5 on bugbuntu?09:33
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falktx`bugs and bad performance are a terrible combo09:34
falktx`qt5 was supposed to be faster!09:35
* DoverMo thought qt5 just added more dialogues, lol09:35
falktx`brb, testing trinity09:35
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jimwhat's a trinity?10:40
ShalokShalomDE10:41
jimoh ok10:41
jimthanks10:41
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falktxwow, kde5 apps are broken when used on non kde desktops10:45
falktxI had to create a special launcher so that kde5 apps think they're running in plasma...10:45
falktxjust so they respect their own settings10:45
falktxjeez10:45
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ShalokShalomfalktx: that is ubunut10:52
ShalokShalomwe use plasma5 since Feb 1510:53
ShalokShalomperfect stable here10:53
falktxyes10:53
falktxbut do you use plasma too?10:53
ShalokShalomyep10:53
falktxI'm talking about running kde stuff like dolphin on non-plasma desktops10:53
ShalokShalomi mean your previous comments10:53
ShalokShalomyep10:53
ShalokShalomno option for me10:53
ShalokShalom[11:34:50] <falktx`> bugs and bad performance are a terrible combo10:54
ShalokShalom[11:35:01] <falktx`> qt5 was supposed to be faster!10:54
falktxapps that use "systrays" don't even start10:54
ShalokShalomidk about other DEs10:54
falktxlet me show you10:55
ShalokShalomwhy Trinity?10:55
falktxhere is dolphin https://i.imgur.com/nVG0e7H.png10:55
falktxShalokShalom: I like kde, but I'd like something that works good...10:55
ShalokShalomyep10:55
ShalokShalomwork perfect here10:55
falktxmulti-monitor?10:56
ShalokShalomno10:56
ShalokShalomthats the main issue today10:56
ShalokShalomboth, on X and Wayland10:56
falktxit's one of them10:56
falktxrandom hangs and crashes10:56
ShalokShalomyou ever try KaOS?10:56
ShalokShalomonly thing to adjust here is output module10:56
ShalokShalomXRender works for all10:56
falktxdon't want to leave ubuntu10:56
ShalokShalomfor?10:58
ShalokShalomsuch nice bugs? :D10:59
falktxsupport for the kx repos10:59
ShalokShalomaha, ok10:59
falktxpretty much everyone runs ubuntu11:00
ShalokShalomwhat does this mean?11:00
ShalokShalomand=11:00
falktxso that's what I'm in11:00
ShalokShalompretty much everone runs Windows11:00
ShalokShalomtzz11:00
falktxI kinda support that too in my apps11:00
ShalokShalomwhat means "support for kx repos"11:00
falktxkeeping things working in general11:00
ShalokShalomi am on the way to package Carla and co11:00
ShalokShalomyeah11:00
falktxI updated to 16.04 because of it11:00
ShalokShalomi see, how they work11:00
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falktxmeh, neither kde5 or trinity is what I expect11:22
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MountainX_I'm running KDE on Arch15:22
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ShalokShalomfalktx: again, you blame KDE for packaging issues16:56
ShalokShalomlike many others do16:56
ShalokShalomincluding KDE devs even16:56
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falktxpackaging issues?17:48
falktxhow is akregator crashing when opening certain urls a package issue?17:48
falktxhow is the entire desktop hanging when connecting to a network a package issue?17:49
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ShalokShalomfalktx: Akregator maybe, because they use KHTML, while we choose QtWebEngine18:50
ShalokShalomOpen URLs works here18:50
falktxI should rant less..18:50
ShalokShalomwhere did you rant?18:51
ShalokShalomits a bit different for me now, to test the network issue18:53
ShalokShalomi guess you mean a local network, yes?19:00
falktxwifi19:01
falktxthe taskbar does not work while connecting19:01
falktxI think I read somewhere that this is because plasma widgets run in a single thread19:01
ShalokShalomthat works here19:24
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MountainX_falktx: I have no problems with that either19:29
ShalokShalomMountainX_: OS?19:32
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MountainX_ShalokShalom: I'm running Arch21:47
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MountainX_For a sample rate of 44100, what buffer size and period should I use for basic spoken word recording?23:02
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wolftuneMountainX_: there's no need for any special buffer size and period for spoken word. Those concerns are for precise timing with low latency for recording along with existing musical tracks or playing synths etc23:21
wolftuneif you are wanting to hear your ownlive source *with* effects or whatever, you need low latency23:22
wolftunefor just recording, even musical parts where the sound source is outside the computer, then low buffer doesn't even matter23:23
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