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| olf-folk1 | hello | 02:28 |
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| olf-folk1 | see line 255 or 257 is this problem? http://paste.debian.net/776258/ | 02:33 |
| olf-folk1 | fresh install, only opened and checked out a few programs. then ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 02:35 |
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| rghvdberg | oops ... can't start jack after upgrading .. | 07:11 |
| DoverMo | heee | 07:13 |
| DoverMo | rghvdberg: do all the cadence processes load | 07:13 |
| rghvdberg | wait ... it works in terminal :-/ | 07:14 |
| rghvdberg | hold on .. checking | 07:14 |
| rghvdberg | oh .. force restart did the trick | 07:23 |
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| FaTony | falktx`, now I've just added pitch bend to my synth and it works in standalone mode but not in Carla, wtf? | 19:00 |
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| falktx` | try other hosts? | 19:16 |
| FaTony | ok | 19:36 |
| FaTony | hmm rosegarden also doesn't work | 19:40 |
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| FaTony | is this some kind of conspiracy? you've taken our CCs, our program changes, now you take pitch bend?! It's time to start a revolution!!! Fight back! | 20:41 |
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| falktx` | FaTony: I didn't take the CCs, no one did | 21:56 |
| falktx` | again, again, what plugins can't do is change their parameters | 21:57 |
| falktx` | you can still have some internal state not exposed to the host, so that ccs and whatever still work | 21:58 |
| falktx` | MIDI when used in plugins has always been limited | 21:58 |
| falktx` | plugin presets don't have a concept of channel | 21:58 |
| falktx` | and neither do parameters | 21:58 |
| falktx` | you can't change a parameter for midi channel 2 | 21:58 |
| falktx` | also don't forgot about all the other midi status&sysex messages that are useless for plugins (like omni mode on/off) | 21:59 |
| falktx` | the only reason plugins still use midi is because there's yet to be a better simple thing that is as commonly used | 22:00 |
| falktx` | I believe vst3 limits the use of midi btw. there are no longer raw midi messages, but instead you get 'events' | 22:01 |
| falktx` | note events, aftertouch, and fancy per-note pitch events too | 22:01 |
| FaTony | well I have no idea why pitch bend doesn't work in hosts, I just handle the events as usual | 22:04 |
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