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| FaTony | falktx, hey, do I need to specify number of program in order to get program change MIDI message? | 19:12 |
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| FaTony | in DPF | 19:12 |
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| FaTony | ok JACK standalone versions receive program change messages but Carla or jack-dssi-host block the messages | 19:17 |
| falktx | FaTony: you should *never* change your own parameters | 19:18 |
| falktx | so you can't process midi program changes yourself | 19:19 |
| falktx | the host is the one that does that | 19:19 |
| FaTony | falktx what? I'm just listening to MIDI messages :\ | 19:19 |
| FaTony | why? | 19:19 |
| falktx | that's how plugins work | 19:19 |
| FaTony | lame :SSS | 19:19 |
| FaTony | ok so... | 19:19 |
| FaTony | ah whatever I guess I can use bank select CC then | 19:19 |
| falktx | FaTony: you cannot *ever* change your own parameters | 19:20 |
| falktx | only in programs, which do you not change yourself | 19:20 |
| falktx | ever | 19:20 |
| FaTony | so... programs are just a bunch of... uhh presets that work globally right? | 19:21 |
| falktx | yes | 19:21 |
| falktx | the host is the one that handles them | 19:21 |
| FaTony | ok then I guess I\ll use CC then, I need per channel presets | 19:22 |
| falktx | that's why carla is blocking midi programs. it's mapping them to plugin presets | 19:22 |
| FaTony | crap there's no proper to do bank select in rosegarden | 19:26 |
| FaTony | falktx, how can I change parameters of JACK standalone versions in real time? | 19:27 |
| falktx | well, you can use a gui | 19:27 |
| FaTony | ahhh | 19:28 |
| FaTony | well, what framework do I use for GUI? | 19:28 |
| falktx | dpf ? | 19:28 |
| FaTony | hmm does it render system widgets? | 19:29 |
| falktx | no | 19:29 |
| FaTony | craaap | 19:29 |
| falktx | you can't safely use qt or gtk in plugins | 19:29 |
| falktx | well you can, on certain specific hosts and no real cross-platform | 19:30 |
| FaTony | well since plugin hosts block program change messages, I will just use JACK standalone | 19:30 |
| falktx | ahem. even if hosts didn't block it, you still could not do that as you're trying to | 19:31 |
| FaTony | well do hosts use the channel field of program messages? | 19:31 |
| falktx | why does it matter? | 19:32 |
| falktx | you cannot change your own parameters, which means you can't change your own presets | 19:32 |
| FaTony | I want different programs on different channels | 19:32 |
| falktx | not possible with plugins | 19:32 |
| FaTony | stupid design | 19:32 |
| falktx | plugins programs are for the full thing | 19:33 |
| FaTony | ok | 19:33 |
| falktx | you can roll your own internal programs though | 19:33 |
| falktx | but whatever parameters that changes, you cannot expose them | 19:33 |
| FaTony | can I have more than 1 midi input port? different number of output audio channels? | 19:33 |
| falktx | no. more than 1 midi port is lv2 only | 19:33 |
| falktx | for compat with vst and dssi I made dpf single port | 19:34 |
| FaTony | okay, I had no idea it was so restrictive | 19:34 |
| falktx | it's restrictive on purpose | 19:34 |
| falktx | plugins api themselves are restrictive | 19:34 |
| falktx | otherwise it becomes a mess | 19:34 |
| falktx | see: lv2 ;) | 19:34 |
| FaTony | I guess I will keep my 16 channel version as JACK standalone | 19:35 |
| falktx | you can have as many audio ports as want | 19:36 |
| falktx | *you want | 19:36 |
| FaTony | falktx, I need different number based on realtime settings | 19:36 |
| FaTony | well I could hardcode 32 I guess | 19:36 |
| falktx | you can do different versions | 19:37 |
| FaTony | yes... | 19:37 |
| FaTony | falktx, hmm how much parameters can carla handle? I've made 32 parameters but I see 0 in GUI | 19:41 |
| falktx | did you set them automable? | 19:42 |
| FaTony | falktx, yes | 19:43 |
| FaTony | lemme check the code again | 19:43 |
| FaTony | wooops, forgot the change the Plugin constructor call | 19:44 |
| FaTony | sorry | 19:44 |
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