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| jim | falktx`, I think probably the very first step would be about the (cadence source)/debian dir... | 03:40 |
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| jim | what I noticed, was the cadence from the kxstudio ppa archive has a .git whose last commit was the last one made in 2015, latest from the git repo is only 2 commits ahead of that... main thing, is that neither version has the debian dir under the git repo that I could see (as evidenced from the output of git status showing the debian dir as not being there)... if it was, we could start working toward a clean lintian report on the source and on the .debs | 03:44 |
| jim | more later... | 03:44 |
| jim | oh, there is one more thing... many items in the lintian reports refer to the package metadata, specifically some missing depends... it's -possible- that if those were taken care of, the lintian reports would get much smaller | 03:46 |
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| jim | falktx|work, after I git clone the cadence source, how do I get the packaging stuff, the debian dir? | 13:06 |
| falktx|work | the packaging is not on the git repos | 13:09 |
| falktx|work | distro specific packaging should not be in a source code repository | 13:09 |
| falktx|work | the debian sources are in the kxstudio repositories | 13:09 |
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| jim | how would you alter the stuff in the debian dir? | 16:53 |
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| JackWinter | alextone: that was a low blow on the reaper forum ;) | 20:08 |
| falktx` | some funny forum topic? | 20:12 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Hehe, i bet no-one answers..... | 20:13 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Justin might ban me for the sudden hit on the server.... :) | 20:14 |
| alextone | falktx`: getting people curious about a linux reaper update. | 20:15 |
| falktx` | well, post a link please | 20:15 |
| alextone | http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=85588&page=12 | 20:16 |
| falktx` | I see no issue in your post. regarding anything being false | 20:22 |
| falktx` | it's all true | 20:23 |
| alextone | falktx`: indeed. :) | 20:24 |
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| JackWinter | falktx`: well the point is that i've just managed to cure myself from the habit of checking fir a new version every 2 hours, and alex made me go check again for nothing | 20:29 |
| falktx` | :P | 20:29 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I got myself down to twice a day, but hey, it's friday. | 20:31 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Get everyone worked up for the weekend. :) | 20:31 |
| JackWinter | i've had no luck with lvsts, they seem to hang the whole shebang | 20:34 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I've not tried them yet. Still buiilding up a system to work with Kontakt and linuxsampler. | 20:35 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Netjack rocks. | 20:39 |
| alextone | JackWinter: The thing i can't do is write the equivalent of a bsh script in Win, but i'm ok with patching a few ports when it starts up, at least for now. | 20:43 |
| JackWinter | no qjackctl for windows? | 20:48 |
| alextone | JackWinter: There is, yes. I've been setting up the patchbay, but i still need to start two apps (the first one being jack) one after the other. | 20:51 |
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| JackWinter | surely there is some way to run a .sh or .bat in windows? | 21:05 |
| JackWinter | alextone: but yes, would be better if reaper could start jack and connect ports on it's own | 21:05 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Of course, yes. | 21:05 |
| alextone | JackWinter: There's no bourne shell in win as far as i can tell. | 21:06 |
| alextone | JackWinter: There's powershell, but i wouldn't know where to start with that. | 21:06 |
| JackWinter | think there are probably many nowdays | 21:08 |
| JackWinter | but afaik windows is mostly .bat files | 21:09 |
| JackWinter | not as expressive as bash ;) | 21:09 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'm sure there are. I'll find one when i get to that point and do a bit of study. | 21:09 |
| JackWinter | alextone: what kinda latency do you have on your network now? | 21:11 |
| JackWinter | so you have sample accurate transport of audio and midi over the lan? that's gotta be a nice setup | 21:14 |
| JackWinter | whether you use windows or linux | 21:14 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'm running at 512, and i get a couple of netxruns every now and then. I can use it at 256, but i have to be careful what i open and close. Once apps are open, it's ok, even with a fair bit of midi. I'm not doing this live, so 512 is comfortable and stable. | 21:15 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Yes, it's sample accurate, the midi plays back very well. | 21:15 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Ironically, if i choose 1024, the system is worse for netxruns, and sometimes won't start at all. | 21:16 |
| alextone | JackWinter: And i'm not using jumbo frames, as one of nics doesn't support them. | 21:16 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Which i hope to change next week when i bring home 3 new gigabit nic cards. | 21:17 |
| alextone | JackWinter: It all seems so simple now (and it is). | 21:18 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Once i got past my lack of knowledge. :) | 21:19 |
| alextone | JackWinter: http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/16/0520/h_1463779319_8968055_8f7e3ece21.png | 21:22 |
| alextone | JackWinter: There's my win box, which i access directly from my linux desktop with Krdc. | 21:23 |
| JackWinter | alextone: yeah, it's always the same. once you know how, it's easy | 21:34 |
| JackWinter | hmm, i wonder if it would be helpful to raise the priority of the nics interrupt, but maybe not | 21:35 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I don't really need to do that, it runs ok now. | 21:35 |
| JackWinter | well if you render, then xruns would be... | 21:36 |
| JackWinter | can you freewheel netjack? | 21:36 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I don't know. | 21:36 |
| JackWinter | alextone: so how was your sojourn in windows? also not 100% ? | 21:37 |
| alextone | JackWinter: It was ok to them point i can host my kontakt files. I allowed it to update to win 10, tested it, then unplugged it from the net. It does what i want it to, which is run kontakt, reaper, and presonus studio 1 (for the midi editing tools) | 21:40 |
| alextone | them=the | 21:40 |
| JackWinter | alextone: why back in our neck of the woods then? | 21:41 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Well, i started getting hammered with win update messages, then i had some sort of virus that was restarting it at random, and the nightmares of christmases past came flooding back. :) | 21:42 |
| JackWinter | ah, yes the wonder of windows winter land | 21:43 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Cleaned it all out, rebuild, installed what i wanted, and now it's basically a server hosting my sample libs. | 21:43 |
| JackWinter | a sampler that runs netjack! | 21:44 |
| alextone | JackWinter: indeed. :) | 21:44 |
| JackWinter | just like the good old days, but better (if possibly less reliable) | 21:44 |
| JackWinter | but probably also better sounding.. | 21:44 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'll build another box like this, and use it to host everything else, then use the current box as a daw box. (now that i have netjack working) | 21:45 |
| alextone | JackWinter: My native linux reaper use is almost entirely midi based, so i'm not trying to stream 50 audio tracks as well. I guess that's where it works for me. | 21:46 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I may do that in the future, but it's easier to do the midi, record it all in reaper or studio one, and use the mastering tools in those apps to finish the job. | 21:47 |
| alextone | JackWinter: When native linux is more mature, i'll revisit that setup. | 21:47 |
| JackWinter | you'll want to read http://www.silentpcreview.com then ;) | 21:48 |
| LAbot | Title: silentpcreview.com | Everything about Silent / Quiet Computers (at www.silentpcreview.com) | 21:48 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'm still a bit sad that i can't get the same midi tools in linux apps that i can in reaper. I know it's my use case, but still.... | 21:48 |
| JackWinter | justin might be encouraged to hear about your use of midi in the native version | 21:49 |
| alextone | JackWinter: My boxes are going in another room, so i'm ok there. | 21:49 |
| JackWinter | alextone: well everything that makes work easier... | 21:50 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I don't know if he would be. He seems to be pretty laid back about all this. | 21:50 |
| JackWinter | yes, i think it was the thought of running on arm hardware that spurred him on ;) | 21:50 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I di write quite a bit of crap in the forum about using netjack, so who knows, maybe someone else may get some value out of it. | 21:50 |
| alextone | JackWinter: It was definitely arm, imho. | 21:51 |
| JackWinter | i just meant, he might be happy to know that midi works well in native with jack | 21:51 |
| alextone | JackWinter: He's got some new cool device, and wanted to hack reaper into it. | 21:51 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Which is ok by me, cos we have some benefit form that. | 21:51 |
| JackWinter | who are we to complain about the crumbles ;) | 21:52 |
| alextone | JackWinter: like Oliver Twist asking for more..... | 21:52 |
| JackWinter | still i think a post about 20 midi ports and 320 channels working fine, might encourage | 21:53 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Today's little joke was a joke, but also a little push to keep the focus up. | 21:53 |
| JackWinter | i realize that, but you still got me...:) | 21:54 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I could setup something like that, just to test it, and add a couple of screenshots i guess. | 21:54 |
| alextone | :) | 21:54 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'm no better, i'm still checking the darn thing regularly. :) | 21:54 |
| JackWinter | i know personally that one of the most discouraging things is to work on something and have the feeling that no one uses or appreciates it.. | 21:55 |
| alextone | JackWinter: yep, been there done that a few times. | 21:57 |
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| JackWinter | i found it amazing though, that there is very little difference in cpu use between the native and running in wine | 21:58 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Yes, i noticed that too. | 21:59 |
| alextone | JackWinter: But i also noticed the native version doesn't glitch like the wine version did for me. | 22:00 |
| JackWinter | hmm, the wine ver doesn't for me | 22:01 |
| JackWinter | or what do you mean by glitch? xruns? | 22:01 |
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| alextone | JackWinter: Midi glitches. | 22:04 |
| alextone | JackWinter: playback is not always accurate. | 22:05 |
| JackWinter | ah,, well i have a feeling that wine midi sucks | 22:05 |
| alextone | JackWinter: yep, it does. | 22:05 |
| JackWinter | afaik, it has no timestamps | 22:05 |
| alextone | JackWinter: nope. | 22:05 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I've just posted again in the reaper forum, giving a little push to the positive midi experience. | 22:06 |
| JackWinter | cool, going to read | 22:09 |
| alextone | JackWinter: It's only short with a snapshot. Don't want to write a novel just yet. :) | 22:10 |
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