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| jim | falktx, hi... | 09:27 |
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| falktx | hello.. | 09:29 |
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| alextone | JackWinter: Greetings. | 09:52 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Netjack is alive, at last. | 09:52 |
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| jim | falktx, ahh, you're here still, you mentioned before that there exists separate sources for cadence and the other things... carla, claudia and others... are they debianized? | 10:11 |
| falktx | yes | 10:13 |
| falktx | the kxstudio repos are all open, so the packages there already have some debian source | 10:14 |
| falktx | debian multimedia git repos also have a starting project for cadence, but abandoned | 10:14 |
| jim | ok... when I first tried a debian build of cadence, it was the one that is in the repos, and it built cadence and the others... I ended up with about 6 .debs | 10:15 |
| falktx | yep | 10:15 |
| jim | so that's one available source, you say there are also separates? | 10:16 |
| falktx | what? | 10:17 |
| jim | they;re all in git? (cadence, claudia, xy controller, etc) | 10:19 |
| falktx | yes.. | 10:19 |
| jim | what I should probably do is build each one to their .debs | 10:20 |
| falktx | cadence stuff is all in 1 repo | 10:20 |
| jim | and that includes claudia &etc? | 10:21 |
| jim | ok, so debian multimedia tried to get it in and failed? | 10:33 |
| falktx | no idea | 10:45 |
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| vlad_ | falktx, I had written about "yesterday's" bug into bugtracker: https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/issues/397 | 10:55 |
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| falktx | vlad_: thanks | 11:26 |
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| vlad_ | falktx, I have one suggestion, do I need to post it to Carla's or Linux Sampler's bugtracker? | 11:27 |
| vlad_ | If two notes are placed in the same moment of time, one of it is switcher to another layer, one - general note. | 11:27 |
| vlad_ | It would be great if than the note-switcher switch to another layer and another general note plays on another layer. | 11:27 |
| vlad_ | How is now: | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | Now sometimes it plays so, as I had wrote before, sometimes general note plays on previous layer, note-switcher switches to another layer after general note is played. | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | And only the next note after this two is played on another layer, to which note-switcher points. | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | What I need to do (uncomfortable): | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | I need to place note-switcher an the moment of time before the played on that layer general note. | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | So if general note is first in pattern, than I need to make pattern bigger and the in first part of it to place note-switcher, on the next part to place playable notes. | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | This confuses the visual orientation in track. | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | And visually is hard to determine, which note on which layer is played, if they'll be scattered. | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | If tho notes (note-switcher and general note) will be just one under another (on one moment of time), than I would be much easy to determine visually layers of notes. | 11:28 |
| vlad_ | ' | 11:28 |
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| falktx | vlad_: you need to post all that info on the bug report | 11:30 |
| falktx | on irc I'll just forget it later | 11:31 |
| vlad_ | yes, I mean, to your Guthub or to Linux Sampler's bugzilla so I need to post it? | 11:31 |
| vlad_ | do I need to post it * | 11:31 |
| falktx | the carla bug report for now | 11:34 |
| vlad_ | Ok ) | 11:38 |
| JackWinter | alextone: congrats! | 11:46 |
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| JackWinter | been having fun with the native version, hope it gets vst guis soon | 11:47 |
| JackWinter | how is it holding up for you? | 11:48 |
| alextone | JackWinter: It's going well. | 12:03 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'm (at this very moment) setting up a big Kontakt template in the win box, and i have another smaller box for linuxsampler, which i'll get to next. | 12:04 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'll admit i wasn't enjoying it at 4am this morning after nearly 72 hours of trying to build a LAN and get this working, but hey, the persistence has paid off, and i've had a bit of sleep to catch up. :) | 12:06 |
| JackWinter | i've had some problems, seems like the overtone vsts makes it hang often, so am in the process of kicking them out of the prj i'm playing with | 12:06 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I did that with some plugs as well. I made a simple text file, and added the blacklisters there. I'll try them later on after i've enjoyed myself for a while. | 12:07 |
| JackWinter | i read your post on the pre forum yesterday. i'm sure i read that the 50% RAM problem, really is just a kernel runtime configuration option, but i can't remember what the knob is. you ought to be able to give more than 50% ram to a process by reconfiguring the kernel | 12:08 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I also have KRDC running, which enables me to bring up the win window, and just stick to one mouse and keyboard. (I have both boxes plugged into my 47" monitor via hdmi cable) | 12:09 |
| JackWinter | afaik, it's not wine related at all | 12:09 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Yep, but that's for another time. | 12:09 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'll amend the post soon. | 12:09 |
| JackWinter | well, if you can setup a monster sampler using a win machine and kontakt, that might also be cool | 12:10 |
| alextone | JackWinter: It's still a mystery, and the validity of running big heavy orchestral sets in Wine is still questionable, imho. | 12:10 |
| JackWinter | you're soon going to return to the point you departed 5-10 years ago ;) | 12:10 |
| alextone | JackWinter: yep. :) | 12:11 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I was thinking that early this morning | 12:11 |
| alextone | JackWinter: What is also cool is the aliasing works in the Win Jack version. I wasn't looking forward to sorting out 32 midi ports and which was which. Now i don't have to. | 12:12 |
| alextone | JackWinter: The names come up just fine. (I'm using Tobias's loopmidi to create virtual ports, and i name them specifically for my orchestral template.) | 12:13 |
| JackWinter | am considering purchasing presswerk to get more compression options, but still prefer using the stillwell compressors. on the other hand i find that with a little bit of elbow grease i can come close just using reacomp. it's just that using these other compressors gets me to a good point faster, and some stillwell seem to have character effects on the sound too | 12:19 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Nothing in native linux to use? I don't normally use compressors so i don't know if Fons, Harry or Robin have built something | 12:21 |
| JackWinter | i'm sure there are some. presswerk would be linux vst, so would allow me to load the same prj in win, os/x and linux | 12:24 |
| JackWinter | seems that this would be a laudable goal. i'd also prefer to use lvst, as that would keep it all in the reaper prj, don't really want to start loading other plugin types and use jack to connect them. like that i'd also have to note down the settings of the external plugins just like in the old days | 12:25 |
| JackWinter | overtone (which i've bought) has 2 or 3 compressors, but they don't seem to stable in reaper, either in wine nor in linux | 12:26 |
| JackWinter | but it's still early days... | 12:26 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Indeed. | 12:28 |
| JackWinter | personally i hope that stillwell's and schwa's plugins will be ported at some moment. like that i'd have everything i need, and any future ports of other wvst, would just be icing on the cake | 12:35 |
| JackWinter | still looking to investigate using airwave, and maybe to hack on it a little if needed | 12:35 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Yes, i think Airwave might help me out too for some of my rarely used but sometimes stuff. | 12:37 |
| alextone | JackWinter:http://storage2.static.itmages.com/i/16/0516/h_1463402156_5127490_79a44bfbe3.jpeg | 12:37 |
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| alextone | hhm, that was different. | 12:41 |
| JackWinter | ideal would be if one could get kontakt (and others) running perfectly in airwave | 12:49 |
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| JackWinter | that's a lot of midi ports...;) | 12:50 |
| JackWinter | what's interesting is that i've compared a few projects running in reaper/wine and native, cpu use and dsp load is very similar. still haven't tried to boot into windows to compare. | 12:52 |
| JackWinter | it really ought to be possible to get very good milage out of win vsts and airwave. it will only use a few small parts of wine, and if the bridge is properly designed it shouldn't cause hardly any processing overhead | 12:53 |
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| alextone | JackWinter: I hope so. As is always the case with this stuff, we have to find a way to manage it all. I'm looking at startup scripts etc, to see if i can simplfy this all, and just get on with writing. | 12:56 |
| JackWinter | heh, we're still gonna be at configuring systems 10 years from now..;) | 13:02 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Of course. :) | 13:03 |
| JackWinter | it kinda sucks to have so little support for our os. am testing the babyface right now, and last night the cat was partially sleeping on it. now i can see the output of reaper on it's leds, but nothing in the headphones. so now i have to read the docs again on how the buttons work, instead of being able to use some gui program to fix the problem | 13:03 |
| alextone | JackWinter: yep. Not a new tune at all. | 13:04 |
| JackWinter | it feels kind of discouraging to be able to use the hardware at all due to the fluke that devices are class compliant | 13:05 |
| JackWinter | once i can get vsts working in airwave, i intend to have a look at the code. maybe i can contribute some code to make it run better, i know a trick or two after wine-rt and wineasio | 13:07 |
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| alextone | JackWinter: i wish you luck and success. I wish i could do the same. | 13:08 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'm ok with the RME module, but there's a ton of admin stuff i could have written to manage all this, and saved myself a load of time and stress. | 13:08 |
| alextone | JackWinter: i'm dealing with hanging notes at the moment. More fun and games in the milky way. :) | 13:14 |
| JackWinter | ah, got sound again. was surely the cat...;) | 13:16 |
| alextone | JackWinter: It could have been worse. :) | 13:26 |
| JackWinter | indeed, everytime this happens i have to read the manual, because i can't remember how to use the 3 buttons and the encoder how to configure the sound card | 13:30 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Note to self. When adding the -S switch (sync) to jack master, make sure it gets added to the slave as well, or mayhem ensues. Doh. | 13:54 |
| JackWinter | what netjack are you using? i guess there is only one, and you'd have to use jack2 on all machines? | 13:55 |
| JackWinter | did you find out if zita-n2jbridge can be built for windows? or would that only do audio and no midi? | 13:56 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I'm using Jack2 and Netone. n2j only does audio. | 14:00 |
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| alextone | JackWinter: Getting a few netxruns the more i add, but it's not insurmountable. Will need to test for a while tweaking values i think. | 14:09 |
| JackWinter | i seem to recall that configuring the ip stack to use jumbo packets is supposed to be helpful | 14:09 |
| alextone | JackWinter: Yep, i've read that too. I'll do it one step at a time, and see what happens. | 14:10 |
| JackWinter | how do you like the notation editor? | 14:10 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I've not really tried it yet. I've been focused on this. | 14:10 |
| alextone | JackWinter: I have quite strong views on notation apps, so it's maybe just as well for the devs i'm not hammering it at the moment. | 14:11 |
| JackWinter | heh, that could well be true. though plenty of strongly opinionated people have hammered the subject so far ;) | 14:20 |
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| alextone | JackWinter: I didn't say it wasn't entertaining. :) | 14:24 |
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| rcspam | hi, ubuntu-16.04 fresh install + kxstudio & wine-team PPA repos. A "carla win32 vst myVst.dll" start correctly but i have no sounds... | 15:03 |
| rcspam | If i launch carla and load a vst plugins in the rack, the plugin crash... | 15:05 |
| rcspam | The only way to do it works is to launch the "non vst" one from carla's DB list... | 15:07 |
| rcspam | Is there a way to start it from the CMD line... Thanks | 15:08 |
| rcspam | Precision: all works fine in my ubuntu 14.04 install. | 15:10 |
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| alextone | falktx: in the win version of carla, can i assume it will show me netjack ports as well, or do i have something going wrong here? | 16:48 |
| alextone | falktx: i've found the internal and external views selections (can we not show them all at once?) but carla itself doesn't show netjack inputs or outputs, either audio or midi. | 16:52 |
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| falktx | are you running it in jack mode? | 16:56 |
| falktx | or asio? | 16:56 |
| alextone | falktx: jack. | 16:57 |
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| alextone | JackWinter: This works quite well. Now i've tweaked it a bit, it's quite stable and the networked midi is accurately playing back. | 22:32 |
| alextone | JackWinter: How did i ever do without netjack for so long. :) | 22:33 |
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