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| DoverMo | trying to figure out what plugin output connects to, in order for it to reach a daw | 03:46 |
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| DoverMo | in carla | 03:46 |
| DoverMo | jack input client? | 03:47 |
| DoverMo | how do I open that | 03:52 |
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| DoverMo | falktx: you know how to setup carla? | 04:04 |
| DoverMo | : / | 04:04 |
| DoverMo | oh | 04:16 |
| DoverMo | nvm | 04:16 |
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| jim | his cadence package includes carla | 05:42 |
| jim | aside from which he has jetted | 05:43 |
| jim | at least one of his clients did... the othermay still be here | 05:49 |
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| DoverMo | been twidling with carla | 06:04 |
| jim | I've been looking at claudia too, it seem promising for bringing jackable things togeter in a consistant and predictable way | 06:05 |
| DoverMo | yeah. just started using it. now i can put in the plugins before it even gets to the application. normal routing would cost a lot | 06:08 |
| jim | before cadence, I couldm' | 06:10 |
| jim | even start jack in a predictable way... | 06:12 |
| DoverMo | yupp | 06:13 |
| DoverMo | it's very good | 06:14 |
| jim | now, I can start jack, bridge to pulseaudio, bridge midi too, and start qsynth (a soundfont player) and qtractor, a midi (and other) sequencer, and get sequences for practicing harmony running on it... | 06:15 |
| DoverMo | nice O: | 06:15 |
| jim | and that's about 10% of what's possible | 06:15 |
| DoverMo | patching to audacity makes the program much easier. you just patch, set levels, and you are 95% done | 06:17 |
| jim | that was my goal, and I came to one of these channels asking about that about 3 weeks ago, I ended up grabbing the debianized cadence source and building it on a debian... that source also included carla, claudia and about three other things that I don't think I've even seen yet | 06:18 |
| DoverMo | ohh | 06:19 |
| jim | but they got built, and I installed what I could, which was all but one package (I don't think unity made it into debian, so the cadence unity support was not installable) | 06:21 |
| DoverMo | lol that's good | 06:22 |
| jim | some kind of dependency issue kept it from installing... still, I reached my original goal | 06:23 |
| jim | my new goal is to get cadence into debian, which is going to require a conversation with its author | 06:25 |
| DoverMo | the one thing that seems confusing is that qjackctl and cadence are independant.... | 06:26 |
| DoverMo | but use the same server??? | 06:26 |
| DoverMo | does not compute in my brain | 06:26 |
| jim | after that, get more and more of kx in debian and maybe linked dynamically to save on disk space | 06:26 |
| jim | yeah, they sorta serve the same purpose... to be a configuration dialog for jack, and to start it... cadence seems to work better (maybe just by allowing more things to be connected) | 06:27 |
| jim | so I don't have to use qjackctl | 06:28 |
| jim | and that's a good thing, cadence starts jack -and- the bridges to pulseaudio, and once all that is started, I can again watch youtube videos (I kinda like watching vinnie colaiuta), I can play midi sequences (general midi too, so I have drums on channel 10) | 06:30 |
| jim | and practice my bass against chord progressions and such | 06:32 |
| jim | jack, the bridges, qsynth have been up now for about 4-5 days constantly, they work fine, and I can play videos fine thru that setup too | 06:36 |
| DoverMo | yey :D | 06:37 |
| DoverMo | vs having to stop qjackctl | 06:38 |
| jim | right, something was weird between jack and the video player, and maybe that was about pulseaudio too... | 06:39 |
| jim | the thing I had to do, was force restart jack in cadence... | 06:40 |
| jim | once I did this, I couldn't figure out why things weren't working... | 06:40 |
| jim | subsequently, I learned that force restart jack killed off pulseaudio, so I had to restart that, and put up the bridges... | 06:41 |
| jim | after that, everything worked | 06:41 |
| DoverMo | jim: you can't tell jack to output to both pulse and jack, and the apps that use pulse don't support jack so you can't use the qjack patchbay to patch it | 06:42 |
| DoverMo | in general | 06:42 |
| DoverMo | there are ways around it | 06:42 |
| DoverMo | but it doesn't work for everything | 06:42 |
| jim | not sure yet why that stuff works... | 06:43 |
| jim | but, | 06:43 |
| jim | qsynth outputs to jack, and that somehow gets to my headphones | 06:43 |
| jim | I think chromium browser (through which I play some videos) plays to pulseaudio, and that somehow gets to my headphones | 06:44 |
| DoverMo | jim: it works cuz of the bridges | 06:45 |
| jim | that's what I thought | 06:45 |
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| jim | so now, I think I have to learn a bit more about how that setup works and how the various audios get to my headphones, mainly because I'm a little afraid of my setup being fragile... | 06:46 |
| jim | so far, I've logged out of X and logged back in, force restart jack, start pulse, start the bridges, fire up claudia, and have qsynth up, and also be able to play videos... I have also tried full restart from power off, I can then boot, login, and start everything as before, and that works... | 06:48 |
| jim | it -seems- like the setup is not so fragile | 06:49 |
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| wargreen | hi here ! | 17:23 |
| wargreen | I got a crash of ardour when i open MIDI pattern in a carla-patchbay, is it a know issue ? | 17:24 |
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| mariobuntu | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/repo/dists/gcc5/Release.gpg: Signature by key 037E0CAFCAA96B99901CB0D52D3445A829213837 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1 | 18:44 |
| mariobuntu | when is it fixed? | 18:44 |
| mariobuntu | ^ubuntu 16.04 64bit | 18:45 |
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| autumna | hi, is there a way to get vestige working in lmms-vst-full package, in ubuntu 16.04 flavors? | 20:16 |
| unicornjedi | autumna: what are you trying to do? | 20:26 |
| autumna | basically I installed lmms-vst-full on ubuntu studio 16.04, loaded a vst, lmms freezes. (same vst works fine with carla bridge it seems) | 20:28 |
| unicornjedi | autumna: oooh. I lmms does that a lot. It's not very stable. | 20:29 |
| unicornjedi | autumna: I switched over to ardour after using LMMS since it kept crashing. Now I use ardour as my DAW | 20:30 |
| autumna | ah. | 20:30 |
| autumna | well I can use the carla plugin in lmms, so it is not a giant problem, but I wasn't sure if I was missing something with my setup, or if it was a known bug | 20:30 |
| unicornjedi | autumna: I haven't tested out using VST's in ardour yet... hmm i think ill do that now | 20:30 |
| autumna | (vestige worked fine with the same vst in 14.04 so. :)) | 20:31 |
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| autumna | anyway thanks. | 20:33 |
| unicornjedi | really? hmm. I can't really help you because I don't have that much experience dealing with VST's in LMMS | 20:33 |
| autumna | its quite alright. one silly question: is there a place where I could file the bug? (if somebody else didn't already) | 20:34 |
| unicornjedi | autumna: oh, I'm glad I could help even a little | 20:34 |
| unicornjedi | autumna: I haven't filed a bug report before. | 20:34 |
| autumna | unicornjedi: :) | 20:36 |
| unicornjedi | autumna: if you like VST's you should download some from DSK | 20:37 |
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