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| Orson | Hi! | 09:17 |
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| JackWinter | Aria: yes, many windows vsts actually work fine in linux | 09:34 |
| Aria | Really?! | 09:36 |
| Aria | Okay, wait.. | 09:36 |
| Aria | I need this one VST, hold on... | 09:36 |
| Aria | Do you think this will work? https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj9p8LTi7vMAhXHIMAKHZH-B94QFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.soundsonline.com%2FSymphonic-Orchestra&usg=AFQjCNFkJXBcJB9FZB7a2VgFh0pgQz9Dig&sig2=lAsVzykl9y0dPVP1dTD5HA | 09:36 |
| Aria | oops | 09:36 |
| Aria | Stupid Google redirect | 09:36 |
| Aria | http://www.soundsonline.com/Symphonic-Orchestra | 09:36 |
| LAbot` | Title: Symphonic Orchestra (at www.soundsonline.com) | 09:37 |
| Aria | Works via Kontakt as well | 09:37 |
| falktx | uses iLok, that won't work I think | 09:40 |
| Orson | Hey guys, I have a stupid question, but I cannot seem to find an answer to it: how to I move plugins up and down the rack in Carla? | 09:41 |
| falktx | you can't, not right now | 09:42 |
| falktx | but you can use the trick of "cloning" a plugin, which will put a duplicate to the bottom | 09:42 |
| Orson | Oh, ok. I thought I was missing something extremely obvious... | 09:43 |
| Orson | I wonder if I can edit a project file to achieve that goal - the plugins seem to retain order when loading a saved project, so it must somehow contain that information | 09:43 |
| JackWinter | kontakt in general ought to wor, even though there are some issues with the latest versions in wine. something to do with msvc2012 | 09:44 |
| JackWinter | and yes, most dongled software will probably fail | 09:44 |
| JackWinter | if you want to play with kontakt, then make sure to disable multicpu support in it, as that seemed to be a bit problematic in wine | 09:45 |
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| JackWinter | falktx: actually maybe a useful question.. reaper for linux (and rpi2/3) is taking shape and really quite useful already. what are the various ways (best ways) of running windows vsts on linux? i assume there is some kind of bridge that presents them as linux vsts? | 10:25 |
| falktx | airwave does that yes | 10:26 |
| falktx | carla is an option too. but they obviously work in different ways | 10:26 |
| JackWinter | dssi-vst? | 10:27 |
| Aria | Wait, reaper for linux, outside of WINE? | 10:29 |
| JackWinter | Aria: yes, so far it has jack support and it's internal reaplugs + all the JS fx | 10:29 |
| Aria | oooh! | 10:30 |
| Aria | Where is it? | 10:30 |
| JackWinter | still very early, but it does work | 10:30 |
| JackWinter | it's on http://landoleet.org/dev/ | 10:30 |
| LAbot` | Title: Index of /dev (at landoleet.org) | 10:30 |
| JackWinter | you need that and libswell | 10:31 |
| JackWinter | put the libswell lib in the binary's dir, as that's where it looks for it | 10:31 |
| falktx | JackWinter: dssi-vst won't work on reaper | 10:31 |
| falktx | JackWinter: can you make a screenshot please? | 10:32 |
| JackWinter | falktx: well so far nothing will work except for the builtin plugs, but i'm trying to prepare for the future ;) | 10:32 |
| falktx | I keep hearing about the new reaper build, but haven't seen any pics of it | 10:32 |
| JackWinter | falktx: of native reaper? | 10:32 |
| JackWinter | hang on | 10:33 |
| Aria | :o wow | 10:33 |
| Aria | I really really like REAPER. I bought a license for it ^.^ | 10:33 |
| JackWinter | https://www.dropbox.com/s/rrb1gc92cqv0ism/Screenshot_20160502_123332.png?dl=0 | 10:34 |
| falktx | oh, so you're already recording audio with it | 10:35 |
| JackWinter | i like it too, but it's the daw i'm used to, so that's normal i guess | 10:35 |
| JackWinter | falktx: not yeat, it's a band practice i recorded in wine, but was thinking of recording the next practice in linux just to see how well it works | 10:36 |
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| JackWinter | it's still very early, but i suspect that one could already use it for some light work, but knowing justin, once he really starts on something, the rest could come very quickly | 10:38 |
| JackWinter | falktx: i'd like to nudge just to add some native plugin format, what would be the best to start with (for running closed source windows VSTs?) | 10:41 |
| Aria22 | I have to go for a little while. Thanks for the help so far, i'll be back :) If I can get my entire music production stack working on Linux, I have no need for Windows anymore | 10:43 |
| falktx | JackWinter: supporting native vsts should do it | 10:45 |
| falktx | both airwave and carla are native vsts | 10:45 |
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| JackWinter | ah ok, and u-he plugs are also native VST, right? | 10:45 |
| falktx | yes | 10:50 |
| falktx | also loomer, redux, overtonedsp, pianoteq | 10:51 |
| JackWinter | yeah, i've got all overtone and pianoteq too. not all u-he ones though. but plenty to get started. recording 16 channels from my hdsp right now, and 2 channels routed from spotify/pa to jack. seems to work fine | 11:02 |
| JackWinter | recording to wavepack format too ;) | 11:02 |
| JackWinter | really love reaper | 11:02 |
| JackWinter | seems like i get the occasional xruns though (at 64 sample frames) | 11:04 |
| JackWinter | falktx: do you also jack1 xrun msgs like this nowdays? **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least -158175117.312 msecs | 11:15 |
| falktx | I run jack2 most of the time | 11:15 |
| JackWinter | been like that for a couple of years now, and i'm almost getting so fed up that i want to dig into what is wrong | 11:16 |
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| Aria22 | Are you all on KXStudio? | 11:22 |
| JackWinter | i'm on archlinux | 11:23 |
| Aria22 | JackWinter: Me too.. Well, manjaro, a derivative. How have you managed to get the full music production working on Arch? | 11:23 |
| JackWinter | i just use jack1/qjackctl/wine/reaper+plugins, and yeah hdspmixer for my rme card | 11:25 |
| Aria22 | may I have help with setting up JACK?... I don't understand how to use it and pulseaudio at the same time | 11:25 |
| JackWinter | heh, maybe i can help somewhat, but i have to run for work | 11:26 |
| Aria22 | Awww... okay, I'll stay around the channel, hope to run into you later ^^ | 11:26 |
| JackWinter | i did do without pulse for a long time and normally use 2 different soundcards, but i have managed to connect pulse to jack1 too | 11:26 |
| JackWinter | i installed pulse a few months ago, but just let all the desktop audio go to pulse to the onboard soundcard, but if i want to i can redirect pa's output to jack | 11:27 |
| JackWinter | probably the easiest is to grab the jack1-dbus package from the aur. as long as pulse it quiet when you start jack, that ought to work the same as jack2-dbus with pulse | 11:28 |
| Orson | In the meantime, are there any guitar players here? | 11:37 |
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| Aria22 | brb, rebooting into KXStudio | 14:20 |
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| Aria22 | Okay, i've got jack working :D but now I need to get my midi keyboard to work... any ideas? | 15:22 |
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| wolftune | falktx: do you know anything about how I could try Jamulus? | 18:06 |
| sirriffsalot | wolftune, install it and start the program :P | 18:07 |
| sirriffsalot | wolftune, while jackd is running of course | 18:07 |
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| falktx | jamulus? never heard of it | 18:11 |
| wolftune | falktx: http://llcon.sourceforge.net/ | 18:21 |
| LAbot` | Title: Jamulus Software (at llcon.sourceforge.net) | 18:21 |
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