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| timl | I have a desktop I plan to upgrade (fresh-inst) from Ubuntu 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS. Are the KXStudio repos updated for Xenial? Or are there any known gotchas or caveats I should be aware of? | 04:38 |
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| jimbo1qaz | kxstudio - ubuntu studio | 07:47 |
| jimbo1qaz | installed from http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories since PPA didn't work (is xenial missing?) | 07:48 |
| LAbot` | Title: KXStudio : Repositories (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 07:48 |
| jimbo1qaz | I noticed that the deb files installed many old package sources (lucid, trusty, wily, etc.) | 07:48 |
| jimbo1qaz | is that normal? | 07:49 |
| jimbo1qaz | Also, it seems like many of my Ubuntu Studio packages will be hard-replaced, using epoch numbers. Is overriding system packages really a good idea? | 07:49 |
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| louigi | anyone who wants to start savouring lac2017, join me at #lac2017 =) | 09:33 |
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| alex-EU | JackWinter: greetings earthling. | 14:53 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: long time no write | 14:53 |
| alex-EU | falktx: and to you. how's things? | 14:54 |
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| alex-EU | falktx: how's that box running? | 14:57 |
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| falktx | alex-EU: hey! | 15:44 |
| falktx | alex-EU: still running fine | 15:44 |
| falktx | alex-EU: I'm working for the MOD team now. see moddevices.com | 15:46 |
| alex-EU | falktx: ok, i'll have a look. | 15:49 |
| alex-EU | falktx: looks interesting for those who use those sort of plugins. | 15:52 |
| alex-EU | falktx: and good to hear you've got a stable gig. | 15:52 |
| falktx | it helps. had to move country though | 15:53 |
| falktx | I'm living in berlin now | 15:53 |
| alex-EU | falktx: aah, so you're on german pizza and beer now. :) | 15:54 |
| alex-EU | falktx: and octoberfest of course. | 15:54 |
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| falktx | ... | 15:54 |
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| falktx | alex-EU: how are you? | 15:55 |
| alex-EU | falktx: yep good. Had some challenges with health over winter, but it's all good now. | 15:55 |
| alex-EU | falktx: i'm about ready to build up the next part of the studio, with a lan, and multiple boxes. | 15:55 |
| alex-EU | falktx: i added a post in the forum about jackass, but it's good you've told me you're working fulltime. I won't bother pursuing it, but try and find an alternative of some sort. | 15:57 |
| alex-EU | falktx: i assume you won't have much time left for much else. :) | 15:58 |
| falktx | oh I'll reply there | 15:58 |
| falktx | yeah, my time is very limited now... :/ | 15:59 |
| alex-EU | falktx: it's ok. I'll scrub the post if it's more convenient. | 15:59 |
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| JackWinter | hey alex, a long time indeed! how are things? | 16:56 |
| alex-EU | yep, good. You? | 16:57 |
| JackWinter | pretty good, but dead tired today. still have to work another hour too :S | 17:03 |
| JackWinter | just got mixes back from london for our last song, wanna hear? | 17:04 |
| JackWinter | and i managed to install komplete8 in wine...! was some kind of stupid mount option ;) | 17:04 |
| JackWinter | also found some evidence, that yes a process can by default not allocate more than 50% of ram in linux, so that would explain your 32gb wine issue | 17:06 |
| falktx | that should be configurable though | 17:09 |
| JackWinter | falktx: yes it is, but i've forgotten the knob name :) | 17:14 |
| JackWinter | don't know if the subject interests alex-EU anymore though | 17:15 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: yep i'll have a listen | 17:15 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: You're right, the subject is old news, and i'm working to do this another way. | 17:16 |
| JackWinter | i hope you can play 24b wave, as i still haven't converted it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zu8ktp24og0lg41/3%20La%20COCCINELLE%20FINAL%20MASTER%20VOX%20DOWN%20270416.wav?dl=0 | 17:17 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: i'm setting up a LAN, and we'll let the apps run in their natural environments. I got jack net working today (finally), so i'm figuring out how to make that work all the time, and of course in a stable fashion. | 17:17 |
| JackWinter | wish you best of luck with it! | 17:18 |
| JackWinter | are you in windows or linux nowdays? | 17:18 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: both. | 17:18 |
| JackWinter | btw, did you try the reaper notation yet? | 17:18 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: not yet, i've been quite busy with this. | 17:19 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: It's early days yet, i'll wait until it matures a bit. | 17:19 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: I'm defintely interested in native reaper though, i've been watching that regularly. | 17:20 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: I'm going to save your file, and listen to it on the BIG SPEAKERS. :) | 17:20 |
| JackWinter | cool, please let me know what you think and if there was some issues with the mix? | 17:22 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: ok. | 17:24 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: You might have a listen of these while you're here. :) https://alextone.bandcamp.com/ | 17:27 |
| LAbot` | Title: Music | Alex Stone (at alextone.bandcamp.com) | 17:27 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: This is pretty cool. As a sax player i'm often critical of how it's handled, but you've done well. Not too wet. | 17:28 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Nice groove, almost like soft acid jazz. | 17:29 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Good job, i enjoyed that. | 17:31 |
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| JackWinter | well i tracked it. the guy who mixed it used to work with ravenscroft, and said that he was very particular with his sax sound, so this got the same treatment | 17:34 |
| JackWinter | thanks! | 17:35 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Yep, nice sound. | 17:35 |
| JackWinter | i googled ravenscroft to find out that he didn't get paid for the solo on baker street... he did get a cheque for the going union rate, but the cheque bounced... gotta suck you play one of the most iconic sax solos, and get nothing for it... | 17:36 |
| JackWinter | what a dirty business it is at times... | 17:37 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: He won't be the last to get screwed over. (Been there done that.) I can empathise with him. | 17:37 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: It's a dirty savage business, and i'm being diplomatic.. :) | 17:37 |
| JackWinter | ;) | 17:37 |
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| JackWinter | listening to cat's cupboard, sounds really realistic..! | 17:42 |
| JackWinter | also enjoy the tune, can nearly feel the spring/early summer and the small ones running around like crazy! | 17:43 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: the strings sound superb! | 17:43 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: yeah, i write like that. In the imagination, and no genre. | 17:44 |
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| jim | a bounced check is essentially bad paper... he can get em | 17:44 |
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| alex-EU | JackWinter: My dearly beloved sonic implant strings. They still leave a lot of the modern libs in the dust. | 17:44 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: And in sample lib terms they're ancient. | 17:45 |
| JackWinter | jim: well was a long time ago, and the cheque was only for 27 GBP | 17:45 |
| alex-EU | jim: I learnt that early, fortunately. | 17:45 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: i like the strings best of all the sounds, just listened to friday too | 17:46 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: You'd think that any morally reasonable person would give the man extra from massive sales. Damn, i've given musos my take for the night because they were hungry, and struggling. Maybe that's why i live in a little house in the mountains, and no private jet. | 17:47 |
| JackWinter | and ravenscroft is dead too. | 17:47 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: yep, i meant at the time, when the cash was rolling in. | 17:47 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: yeah, that's exactly it. you'll never get rich in money that way, only in your soul! | 17:48 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: i can live with that. | 17:48 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: wise man! ;) | 17:48 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: The strings are the best part of that lib. | 17:49 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: The rest is pretty good too, but i've double up on a few from other libs to try and capture the right texture, and switch things up from time to time. | 17:49 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: I bought the first volume of Spitfire Mural symphonic strings last year. Everyone was raving about them, and the demos sounded ok. Waste of money, imho. They're so wet you need a swimsuit and a towel to right with them. Not good at all for modest orchestral work like mine. | 17:52 |
| alex-EU | right=write | 17:52 |
| JackWinter | hmm, yeah i suppose that can happen | 17:54 |
| JackWinter | imo best to keep samples dry and to add the fx yourself, but i guess not everyone swings that way | 17:54 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: You're right, imho. That's why VSL was so popular. They recorded naturally, and left it to the user to shape it any way they wanted. | 17:55 |
| JackWinter | well you can always add fx, removing it more or less impossible | 17:56 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: They've been accused of recording completely dry, but it's not true. The sound's natural. The whiners are used to everything saturated, and baked into the samples. | 17:56 |
| JackWinter | we i guess classical instruments will always have at least some room sound, hopefully an awesome sounding room at that | 17:58 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: it's idiocy, imho, but hey, if they're silly enough to pay for them... | 17:58 |
| JackWinter | yeah, too bad that you had a silly day too! no money back? | 17:58 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Nope, a lesson learned. | 17:59 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: First lib i invested in in some years, and it's basically crap. | 17:59 |
| alex-EU | :) | 17:59 |
| JackWinter | yeah... same with many plugins... i'm so sick and tired of buying plugins on a lark, then to find out that i'm not really liking them, or basically already something similar | 18:00 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: This is why i want a LAN setup. I still have a shedload of gig files. I can run them on linux with linuxsampler just fine. | 18:00 |
| JackWinter | the only thing i've bought in the last few years that i really like and use is u-he's satin | 18:01 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: I just need to get them all talking to each other. :) | 18:01 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: You're the second person who's mentioned U-He positively. I might have a look soon. | 18:01 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: have a look at fons' n2j-bridge too, don't know if that builds for windows though | 18:02 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: ok, i'll have a look. | 18:03 |
| JackWinter | supposedly they have linux beta plugs since 2014 or so. satin is a basically a tape emulation and i use it a lot. just seems to make everything sound better, the delay is also very cool | 18:03 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: ok, taking notes. | 18:04 |
| JackWinter | i think i'll buy waves diamond or platinum too, next time they have a sale and have a reasonable price for it. since it's no longer dongled is suppose i could live with it | 18:05 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: right. | 18:05 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Any predictions for reaper native linux? :) | 18:05 |
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| JackWinter | it's still a lot of money and i know many people hate waves, but personally i find the plugins mostly very good | 18:05 |
| JackWinter | not really :) but justin said another build would come out after 5.20 is out. for rpi2/3 too..! | 18:06 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: i saw that, hence the question. | 18:07 |
| alex-EU | :) | 18:07 |
| JackWinter | so far it's just a teaser, i built it and you can do some stuff, but not really work with it | 18:07 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: I can't get it to run, but you're ahead of me on that stuff. | 18:07 |
| JackWinter | would be good with a native reaper, but chances are i'll keep using it in wine, atleast until there is some kind of windows vsts bridge included in it | 18:08 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Which is probably just as well, or i'd lose lots of time tinkering with that instead of writing music. | 18:08 |
| JackWinter | yeah, don't bother with it at the moment. let's see if he has really put some work into it | 18:08 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: right. | 18:08 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: ok. | 18:08 |
| JackWinter | i mean after all, i just have 2-3 small buglets in reaper/wine that don't really bother me. the other side are xruns from using the transport, but since i can record/playback for hours on low latency it's not really a real life issue | 18:10 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: yep. | 18:11 |
| JackWinter | la coccinelle was tracked/edited on reaper/wine and mixed on protools/osx | 18:11 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: right. | 18:11 |
| JackWinter | so i'm already good, and don't have to fsck around all that much with software, which is a good thing | 18:12 |
| JackWinter | at least like that you can get some real work done... | 18:12 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: yes, true. | 18:14 |
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| JackWinter | alex-EU: nice chatting again..! and now it's time to go earn some money to keep my cats with tuna, my girl with jewellery and myself with toys. list in ascending order of expense ;) | 18:25 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: and likewise. Good to catch up and congrats on the tune. Nice work. | 18:27 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Ciao. :) | 18:27 |
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