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| sphinx | :/ | 04:24 |
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| sphinx | ok i see sorry anyone able to get bluetooth to work in kxstudio 4.13.3 the application buttons are greyed out and cannot see my device | 04:26 |
| sphinx | kubuntu works fine | 04:27 |
| holstein | could be, you just havent added what you need, that is in kubuntu | 04:27 |
| sphinx | i dont know a whole lot about cross reffrencing dependcies ..but if i knew a keywork in the manager maby i coulld find what i needed in the list | 04:28 |
| holstein | what would i do? | 04:28 |
| sphinx | i could go lok in kubuntu .. | 04:28 |
| holstein | if i "didnt know a lot". which is fine.. i would start with what works, and add the kxstudio sources to it | 04:28 |
| holstein | you can add the kxstudio stuff to kubuntu, no problem | 04:29 |
| sphinx | so should i add the ppa to the PM list? | 04:29 |
| holstein | .g kxstudio sources | 04:29 |
| therealthelonius | holstein: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories | 04:29 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Repositories (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 04:29 |
| sphinx | the sources for kubuntu? | 04:29 |
| holstein | sphinx: there are no "kubuntu" sources | 04:29 |
| holstein | sphinx: kubuntu will just use the ubuntu ones.. | 04:29 |
| sphinx | sry i dont use the right words somtimes | 04:30 |
| holstein | sphinx: what im saying is, if kubuntu is working, you can install it as a base, and add the kxstudio stuff to it.. | 04:30 |
| sphinx | ahh | 04:30 |
| sphinx | ty | 04:30 |
| sphinx | oh | 04:30 |
| holstein | sphinx: you can also try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup | 04:31 |
| LAbot | Title: BluetoothSetup - Community Help Wiki (at help.ubuntu.com) | 04:31 |
| sphinx | yes i would like t o do that so my kubuntu works then add the kxstudio repositories? | 04:31 |
| holstein | sphinx: you say, kubuntu *is* working | 04:32 |
| sphinx | yes the bluetooth works in there | 04:32 |
| holstein | sphinx: anyways.. allow me to recap my suggestions | 04:32 |
| holstein | refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup in your current kxstudio | 04:32 |
| LAbot | Title: BluetoothSetup - Community Help Wiki (at help.ubuntu.com) | 04:32 |
| holstein | see if you can install what is needed to make bluetooth work there | 04:32 |
| holstein | if you cant, then, you can go back to kubuntu, or install kubuntu and add the kxstudio sources to it | 04:32 |
| sphinx | thank you vry much holstein | 04:33 |
| sphinx | i just didnt know if doing that would corrupt anything or not | 04:34 |
| sphinx | oh wow ty now my head is spinning hahah | 04:34 |
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| Fishy | Hey everyone | 04:57 |
| holstein | o/ | 04:57 |
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| Fishy | Hi holstein | 04:58 |
| Fishy | I'm new to both linux and kxstudio and I was wondering if anyone has run into an issue with USB keyboards/mice not working once the login screen appears | 05:00 |
| holstein | Fishy: yes.. | 05:01 |
| holstein | many things that dont support linux dont work well in linux.. | 05:01 |
| Fishy | I've been doing a bunch of googling and found that maybe it's something with GRUB? I can get usb stuff to work if I go through the GRUB recovery mode, but that's the only way | 05:03 |
| Fishy | that I've been able to get anything to work | 05:04 |
| holstein | not likely | 05:04 |
| holstein | nothing about grub should do that | 05:04 |
| holstein | Fishy: what would i do? | 05:04 |
| holstein | Fishy: i try and isolate as much as possible.. i grab live iso's.. ubuntu, knoppix.. fedora. lots of different kernel versions | 05:05 |
| holstein | Fishy: thats basicallly where the drivers are.. in the modular linux kernel | 05:05 |
| Fishy | The live CD of kxstudio works fine with USB | 05:05 |
| holstein | Fishy: so, thats a helpful data point that can help a volunteer better assist you | 05:05 |
| Fishy | It looks like the power gets cut to the usb devices right before the login screen pops up (like a second or two before) | 05:06 |
| Fishy | I can tell because the laser shuts off on my mouse at that point and the caps lock lights go out | 05:07 |
| holstein | right | 05:07 |
| holstein | thats not a 'feature' | 05:07 |
| holstein | so, i dont know what to tell you | 05:07 |
| Fishy | I've tried all the USB ports | 05:07 |
| Fishy | And tried a full upgrade from synaptic | 05:08 |
| Fishy | I think that gave me a new kernel version because another listing showed up in the GRUB recovery menu | 05:08 |
| holstein | Fishy: sure.. you can try the older one.. | 05:09 |
| Fishy | I'll try that in a few moments. I'm on the PC in question right now (in recovery mode) | 05:11 |
| Fishy | Is there anything else I should try, in case the older kernel doesn't work? | 05:12 |
| holstein | sure | 05:12 |
| holstein | what i do is, isolate, and test.. as much as possible | 05:12 |
| holstein | you say the USB hardware works.. so, you dont need to be switching ports | 05:13 |
| holstein | if its working, its working. you try and isolate the kernels.. | 05:13 |
| holstein | if ubuntu works, just install it, and use it, and add the kxstudio sources to it.. | 05:13 |
| holstein | .g kxstudio sources | 05:13 |
| therealthelonius | holstein: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories | 05:13 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Repositories (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 05:13 |
| Fishy | Well, I guess I'll try downing this box and trying the older kernel, and if that doesn't work I'll try getting Ubuntu on it | 05:16 |
| holstein | "downloading this box"? | 05:17 |
| holstein | oh.. i see | 05:17 |
| holstein | yeah. starting with ubuntu as a base may be easier for you | 05:17 |
| holstein | you get the same kxstudio stuff.. | 05:17 |
| Fishy | Could encrypting home directories cause the USB devices to possibly have a fit? | 05:17 |
| holstein | shouldnt | 05:17 |
| Fishy | Yeah, but I'm interested in the low latency features of KXstudio... What is the best way to achieve that via Ubuntu? | 05:18 |
| holstein | Fishy: right | 05:18 |
| holstein | Fishy: thats in the ubuntu repos | 05:18 |
| holstein | the lowlatency kernel | 05:18 |
| holstein | but, please, *dont* worry with that, right now | 05:19 |
| holstein | "lowlatency" is at best a buzz word | 05:19 |
| holstein | all linux distros can achieve what you are talking about | 05:19 |
| Fishy | Perhaps, but I don't yet know how to achieve <10ms latency for audio recording | 05:21 |
| holstein | Fishy: well, i do | 05:22 |
| holstein | Fishy: and, i can assure you, you can do it with most linux distros | 05:22 |
| holstein | Fishy: but, there are *many* variables.. hardware support.. for example | 05:22 |
| holstein | you cant download a kernel that fixes that... | 05:22 |
| holstein | just get linux installed.. working stable with your gear.. you can add kxstudio sources if that distro is not kxstudio | 05:23 |
| holstein | then, go on from there, as you have problems | 05:23 |
| holstein | dont solve a latency prolem you are not having.. | 05:23 |
| Fishy | As much as it pains me to admit it, that is probably the best course of action | 05:24 |
| holstein | i installed linux on a laptop, and used it.. for nearly a year.. before migrating my studio over to linux | 05:25 |
| holstein | doing it all in one step? quite drastic | 05:25 |
| holstein | movinng to any OS like that | 05:25 |
| Fishy | Is there any way to get the Ubuntu kernel on here without downloading the live CD ISO and going through the initial install procedures? | 05:26 |
| holstein | Fishy: its the same kernel, friend | 05:27 |
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| holstein | the lowlatency kernel from the ubuntu repos.. is AFAIK, the same kxstudio has | 05:27 |
| Fishy | But what about your advice regarding testing with Ubuntu's kernel? | 05:28 |
| holstein | anyways, kxstudio has it by default.. ubuntustudio has it by default | 05:28 |
| holstein | Fishy: testing what? | 05:28 |
| holstein | Fishy: im talking about getting your keyboard and mouse working | 05:28 |
| holstein | you will likely find, as i do, the kernels dont really make that much difference, these days | 05:29 |
| holstein | in latency | 05:29 |
| holstein | Fishy: you are not at a point where you are having a latency issue.. you have basic hardware issues to troubleshoot | 05:30 |
| Fishy | Right. And earlier you said that I needed to check different kernel versions as part of the isolation testing | 05:31 |
| Fishy | I don't know how to get other kernels to test with, besides blowing up my whole install and downloading a new distro live CD | 05:32 |
| Fishy | And unfortunately I'm on a metered connection so I'd like to not keep grabbing multi-gigabyte ISOs if I can help it | 05:32 |
| holstein | i didnt express that as a need | 05:33 |
| holstein | i was saying, thats how i work out support for hardware that im having a hard time with. | 05:33 |
| holstein | me? | 05:34 |
| holstein | i have seen, personally, a live iso.. hardware works.. i install, and take updates, and hardware doesnt | 05:34 |
| holstein | is that your problem? i dont know | 05:34 |
| Fishy | Yes, that's my problem | 05:35 |
| holstein | i would have to be there.. but, i would see if i can get to tty with *some* keyboard, and see whats going on | 05:35 |
| holstein | or, i would use the resources i have, which may be more bandwidth than you, to try and see what is up | 05:35 |
| holstein | but, you can install ubuntu as a base, and get what kxstudio facilitates | 05:35 |
| Fishy | Well, I'm going to restart and check to see if I still have problems using the older kernel | 05:37 |
| Fishy | How do I verify which kernel I am using? | 05:37 |
| holstein | good plan | 05:37 |
| holstein | Fishy: uname -a in a terminal | 05:37 |
| Fishy | Thanks | 05:38 |
| holstein | sure.. good luck.. | 05:38 |
| Fishy | I'll be back in a bit, maybe. | 05:38 |
| holstein | Fishy: if its slow.. | 05:38 |
| holstein | #opensourcemusicians | 05:38 |
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| aeLiXihr | hi, i have no sound with Firefox if Jack is set to 88.2(like i usually have) on 44.1 it works... (the bridge is set to ALSA -> Loop -> JACK) any ideas, please? | 11:28 |
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| falktx|work | try the zita-a2j instead of alsa_in/out | 11:33 |
| aeLiXihr | falktx|work: is that for me? | 11:35 |
| falktx|work | yes | 11:35 |
| aeLiXihr | if so, where do i find it | 11:36 |
| falktx|work | on cadence alsa-bridge settings | 11:36 |
| aeLiXihr | thank you! | 11:36 |
| falktx|work | there's a "..." button | 11:36 |
| falktx|work | make sure to install zita-ajbridge first | 11:36 |
| aeLiXihr | sudo apt-get install zita-ajbridge ?? | 11:37 |
| aeLiXihr | falktx|work: (it is there, in bridge tool...) | 11:38 |
| falktx|work | yes | 11:39 |
| falktx|work | it's always there, even if not installed | 11:39 |
| aeLiXihr | ok | 11:39 |
| aeLiXihr | i had already pressed okay, i hope that does not ruin it | 11:40 |
| aeLiXihr | falktx|work: i installed it | 11:41 |
| falktx|work | ok, switch to the new bridge type and possibly restart jack | 11:41 |
| aeLiXihr | i just did | 11:42 |
| aeLiXihr | no sound... | 11:42 |
| aeLiXihr | may be reboot? | 11:43 |
| aeLiXihr | falktx|work: ...Ardour works | 11:46 |
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| aeLiXihr_ | falktx: i just restarted firefox, did not realize i would fall off the chat :) | 11:49 |
| aeLiXihr_ | ...still no sound though | 11:49 |
| falktx|work | hmm, then I don't know | 11:50 |
| falktx|work | firefox is picky when it comes to soundcards | 11:50 |
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| falktx|work | try the alsa-jack plugin option | 11:50 |
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| aeLiXihr_ | falktx|work: hmm, with the previous KX it worked ootb. I will try reboot later. Thanks anyway! | 12:21 |
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