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| thomax | hello, i run debian on my desktop. is it a good idea to use kxstudio in a virtualbox? | 15:59 |
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| youki | thomax, why do't you use | 16:03 |
| holstein | thomax: you wont have a good experience doing production work in VM | 16:03 |
| youki | sorry, why don't you add kxstudio repos on your Debian ? | 16:04 |
| holstein | you will want to do audio work in a native OS | 16:04 |
| holstein | thats what kxstudio is trying to faciliate | 16:04 |
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| thomax | youki: do you think it's a better idea to mix up repositories with all the dependency conflicts? | 16:05 |
| holstein | i suggest dual boot, or live iso's.. so you can have bare metal.. otherwise, you can add the kxstudio sources and apps to debian, as youki suggests | 16:05 |
| holstein | thomax: there are no "dependency conflicts".. the sources are well maintained, and self contained.. | 16:05 |
| holstein | but, simply dual booting will address that, as well.. | 16:05 |
| youki | thomax, i use kxstudio repos on Debian Jessie and it works well, they're made for this | 16:06 |
| thomax | holstein: you mean debian source packages? compile all the stuff myself? | 16:06 |
| falktx` | is there any dependency conflicts? | 16:06 |
| holstein | thomax: no | 16:06 |
| falktx` | if there are let me know | 16:06 |
| falktx` | I'm here to fix those | 16:06 |
| holstein | thomax: i mean, there are no dependency conflict with the kxstudio debian sources that falktx` provides | 16:06 |
| thomax | falktx`: cool! | 16:06 |
| youki | thomax, http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories | 16:07 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Repositories (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 16:07 |
| thomax | so than i will give it a try in the next days. does kxstudio supports pd-extended as well? | 16:07 |
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| thomax | doesn't look like | 16:12 |
| holstein | thomax: it will support it like any linux can/will | 16:13 |
| holstein | there are issues with pd, AFAIK, being included in default repos | 16:13 |
| holstein | i cant imagine falktx` not already packaging audio production applications for the repos.. | 16:14 |
| thomax | i would like to test this http://www.monologx.com/xodular/ based on pd-extended | 16:14 |
| LAbot | Title: XODULAR — MONOLOG X (at www.monologx.com) | 16:14 |
| falktx` | I don't use pd, I won't update that cause I wouldn't know how to test it | 16:14 |
| holstein | anyways, kxstudio as a base for using/running pd will be as good, if not better than any other distro | 16:14 |
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| distrozapper | dreamer, Hi! About singing synths: Thanks again for sharing the web.archive.org link for the flinger jukebox! I wasn't aware there really are services "saving the internet" ;) | 18:40 |
| dreamer | wow, you didn't know about archive.org? :o | 18:41 |
| thomax | i once made a track with flinger | 18:41 |
| dreamer | they've been archiving the web for a long time | 18:41 |
| dreamer | Founded 1996; 20 years ago | 18:41 |
| dreamer | already they had the insight that things on the web change/disappear :) | 18:42 |
| thomax | https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiv_MuD_q7KAhUDGA8KHfxWBiYQtwIIHTAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DdDmPSskP7Uo&usg=AFQjCNHtJJzsRNgtgB_vJLmGe1tgZOLHYw&sig2=YSkN_R_2zzIqY4lwVxBfpQ | 18:42 |
| dreamer | a lof of nice things can be found there | 18:42 |
| dreamer | a friend has been working for them to archive a collection of media | 18:42 |
| dreamer | they have stuff like all of Alan Watts' lectures etc. | 18:42 |
| dreamer | thomax: that's a really long youtube link .. | 18:43 |
| holstein | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDmPSskP7Uo | 18:43 |
| thomax | well, sry.. it's a bit shorter in real :-[ | 18:43 |
| dreamer | hehe yeah | 18:43 |
| distrozapper | dreamer, ehm no, shame on me perhaps ;) (I think I am getting an "old fart") | 18:43 |
| dreamer | maybe you forgot? | 18:44 |
| dreamer | I knew about them since the first years I was on the internet | 18:44 |
| dreamer | and as you can see they've been around for a long time | 18:44 |
| dreamer | I should really donate them some monies, because occasionally they really save the day | 18:44 |
| thomax | i wrote a little program to get the text in sync with the note length and pauses | 18:45 |
| dreamer | thomax: btw, I use kxstudio repos on my stretch laptop. haven't ran in to any conflicts at all | 18:45 |
| dreamer | (although I mostly use it on a xubuntu netbook which runs my 'studio') | 18:46 |
| thomax | dreamer: thanks, i will add the repository in the next days and see what will happen | 18:46 |
| holstein | you can always run it in parallel with a VM | 18:47 |
| holstein | i used to do that, with another machine, so i could test all updates with my audio interface, etc.. before doing the updates on the studio machine | 18:48 |
| holstein | test the repos and updates, etc, in VM.. apply them to your main install after all is approved. | 18:48 |
| thomax | holstein: it's a smart way to go | 18:49 |
| thomax | do you like my simple flinger example? | 18:54 |
| holstein | the music at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDmPSskP7Uo ? | 18:55 |
| * thomax nods | 18:55 | |
| holstein | seems appropriate, and well executed | 18:56 |
| holstein | the "voice" is interesting.. | 18:56 |
| thomax | yes, thats the flinger thing | 18:57 |
| thomax | i used rosegarden to get this done. | 18:57 |
| thomax | in the note sheet you can enter the song text | 18:58 |
| distrozapper | thomax, Hi! How did you create https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDmPSskP7Uo ? Did you use scheme? | 18:58 |
| thomax | distrozapper: yes, the 'normal' scheme program which came with flinger and a self written script to get the midi notes and text together | 18:59 |
| holstein | i remember playing with festival years back.. | 19:00 |
| thomax | but i think with a vocoder plugin you can get a similar result. can't use vst plugins right now because i'm not with kxstudio yet | 19:01 |
| distrozapper | thomax, Thanks! I once tried to explore the flinger systematics and had to stop at the scheme engine, was too much learning for me alas ;) Thanks anyway, your result is quite re-boosting my dream of a singing synth. | 19:08 |
| distrozapper | thomax, yes, vocoders are nice, but I would like the "really synthesized sound". | 19:10 |
| distrozapper | resp. "really synthesized speech singing" | 19:11 |
| thomax | distrozapper: unfortunately the flinger project isn't in progress anymore :-( | 19:23 |
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| distrozapper | thomax, yes, alas its head maintainer has passed away. | 19:29 |
| distrozapper | thomax, thanks for contribution! I like this flinger singing because of its "imperfectness". | 19:31 |
| thomax | distrozapper: i used some audio filters to get it smoother, as far as i remeber | 19:32 |
| thomax | it's several years ago | 19:32 |
| distrozapper | thomax, I see, it is years ago too I have played with flinger. | 19:33 |
| * distrozapper dislikes telephone answer machines sounding human, I would like them to have a distinguishable "machine characteristic", with a high-grade understandability. Just to be able to recognize (in future) whom I am talking to: A machine or a real human person. | 19:43 | |
| thomax | distrozapper: good taste | 19:46 |
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| distrozapper | thomax, you were using rosegarden along with flinger? | 22:08 |
| distrozapper | thomax, sounds VERY interesting in my ears;) | 22:09 |
| thomax | distrozapper: yepp, i made one track with the notes of the voice and entered the text to the note sheet, then i wrote a little program which translated the the notes in . and slashes for the note lengths which, along with the midi voice track and the text got into the scheme program which produced the wav file. | 22:19 |
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| distrozapper | thomax, Hm so you make me curious about rosegarden ;) I know what it is, but I seldomly start it (I am a bedroom musician;)) | 22:33 |
| thomax | distrozapper: me too. but with rosegarden you can have a note sheet which includes the midi notes and the text along | 22:34 |
| distrozapper | thomax, ah yes, I begin to remember now... | 22:38 |
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| distrozapper | thomax, you just triggered (my single) neuron ;) | 22:40 |
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| thomax | you need to make two tracks, one must be called melody (without the text) and one called lyrics, with the notes (or pauses) and the text | 22:42 |
| thomax | this midi file is used in the scheme file. | 22:43 |
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| thomax | the main problem is, to get the text correctly into the note sheet | 22:43 |
| thomax | oh, and get a working festival with flinger | 22:43 |
| distrozapper | thomax, yes I think this is what made me resign. | 22:44 |
| thomax | distrozapper: yepp, i don't have a working flinger right now. but i could try to get one.. | 22:45 |
| FXpro | hi. I gotta a question. is there anything like dfx (fxsound.com) for debian? | 22:46 |
| FXpro | I am downloading kxstudio 64bit for a live test run now. | 22:47 |
| distrozapper | thomax, but I will retry that way you told now, maybe there is better chance today. Thanks in advance! :) | 22:47 |
| FXpro | the sound on this computer is complete garbage, gain is too low but I was able to fix it on windows with dfx audio enhancer which improved the sound far beyond my expectation. | 22:47 |
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| distrozapper | FXpro, have you tried VLC? | 23:01 |
| FXpro | yeah, I wanted something system level for dsp processing however like dfx does in windows and I know it exists, jack or something like that. | 23:06 |
| FXpro | the ppl at ap-linux said this via email, "Real time kernel and jack. Then use Deadbeef player with jack plugin" | 23:06 |
| FXpro | this kxstudio distro looks fancy spancy. linux has come a looooong way since last I played with it | 23:08 |
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| FXpro | vlc is built into most if not all distros now a days. also this distro has the pulse audio program integrated. | 23:09 |
| FXpro | doesnt seem to help much though. | 23:09 |
| * distrozapper decides ?"FXPRO*"? being bot/troll | 23:10 | |
| FXpro | huh? how so distrozapper | 23:10 |
| FXpro | if you can help me out great but automatically pointing the finger like you just did is not kewl | 23:11 |
| * FXpro *SHRUGS* | 23:11 | |
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| * distrozapper still decides *fx*pro* being bot/troll | 23:56 | |
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