Monday, 2016-01-11

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rghvdbergoh .. calf analyzer has empty gui in carla :-/10:40
rghvdbergstand alone works10:40
rghvdbergother calf plugins are ok10:40
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falktxhmm I thought I forced that10:45
falktxcalf should always run as bridges10:45
falktxare you updated?10:45
rghvdbergyup10:49
rghvdbergoeps .. gotta go bbl10:49
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JackWinterfalktx: i'm on kde5 now, plasma/frameworks/qt/etc v5, and it's not too bad at all.  some small things, but all in all it's not much worse than any other kde release (imo).  ymmw, and apparently especially graphics drivers might do you in18:36
JackWinterbut ok, not a canonical system, so my milage may vary18:37
JackWintergot more and more difficult to stay with kde4 on archlinux18:38
falktxJackWinter: things are not so good on the debian/ubuntu side18:40
falktxJackWinter: using older qt with new kde is not a good mix18:40
falktxalso yes, I always use intel graphics which don't always play nice with KDE18:40
JackWinterrunning pulseaudio too at the moment for the desktop + apps.  normally it outputs on the onboard, but i can switch it to the alsa loopback to output to jack too.  seems to work pretty well after i hacked rtkit ;)18:41
JackWinteri have intel on 2 systems too18:41
JackWintera haswell and an i7-2600k18:42
falktxI have a i3 on the mac-mini. and i7 4770k for work18:43
JackWinterplasma has crashed a few times but always come up again, once kwin went totally crazy, and sometimes i see some flickering when i want to shutdown.  other than that it's been rock solid.18:43
falktxI'll have to update my custom theme to work on kde518:43
falktxgtk3 seems to be here to stay. qtcurve still doesn't support that :(18:44
JackWinteroh yeah.  i don't like breeze at all, have gone back to oxygen18:44
JackWinterit's always the same.  broken things abound, but somehow things work pretty well anyways18:45
falktxsigh, maybe I should prepare for 16.04 kde5 release18:45
falktxbut I still don't have a real 14.04.x yet :(18:46
JackWinterwell you still have a few months ;)18:46
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JackWinterjust wanted to say, that the kde 5 experience isn't all roses, but also doesn't have to be catastrophic.  ok, i don't know what constraints kubuntu forces on you, but kde 5 seems no worse than kde 4 was in the beginning18:47
falktxif I'm going to change to kde5 I'm going to have to move to 16.0418:49
falktxperhaps I'll do that on the personal not-work pc18:49
JackWinteron another note, do you have wine-staging nowdays?  if so you can drop the wine-rt patch.  staging has the functionality, just uses other env vars to enable it18:49
falktxbut I'm sure I'll patch some kde stuff18:49
falktxJackWinter: no, I stopped at 1.8 for now18:49
JackWinteryou could always try another boot partition, or qemu/kvm18:50
falktxhmm yeah. I bought a new disk might as well use it for this18:50
falktxnot sure if xfs supports resizing partition. I'll try later18:51
JackWinteri hate doing that, i'm always afraid...;)18:52
JackWinterdoes cadence require jack-dbus?18:54
distrozapperfalktx, I tried resizing an xfs partition with recent gparted some 2 weeks ago, gparted reported to not support this.18:55
falktxJackWinter: the cadence app yes. some of the cadence tools no18:55
falktxJackWinter: catia, cadence-jackrender and other small tools work with libjack just fine18:56
JackWinterhmm, i'm not thrilled with using jack-dbus, but qjackctl is sometimes really going on my nerves18:57
JackWinterthat's one regression in plasma 5, before i could right click on the qjackctl icon in the systray to reset the xrun counter, and that's gone now18:57
falktxthe new non-x11 systrays do not allow custom actions18:58
JackWinteryeah, that's why i call it a regression B)18:59
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distrozapperfalktx, Hi! I don't know how much this can matter in catching winVST problems with Carla : There seems to be no package in ubuntu 14.04 containing  /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so . This is what the wine engine complains everytime I try to load a winVST plugin in Carla: p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so .19:33
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distrozapperfalktx, Be sure I am bored too about win stuff, but maybe it might be worth reported to <somewhere> upstream?19:37
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falktxdistrozapper: that "error" is fine, ignore it19:45
distrozapperfalktx, OK thanks for clearing19:46
falktxdistrozapper: I'll install 16.04 somewhat soon. that will help me reproduce the new issues19:46
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distrozapperfalktx, OK fine, I will try to prepare a "zap" to 16.04 too then, thanks19:48
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rghvdbergardour 4.6 pacakaged yet ? ;-)21:29
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falktxno21:56
falktxI need to get to berlin first21:56
falktxupdate will come thursday21:56
falktxI need to start packing..21:57
daeavelwynfalktx: hi ! got this error in kxstudio : http://pastebin.com/4LTC8C1q22:02
daeavelwynso i wonder22:02
daeavelwynwhich repos am i supposed to remove?22:03
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falktxwhich ubuntu version?22:04
daeavelwyn14.0422:04
falktxhmm22:04
falktxdoes it go away with updates?22:05
daeavelwynhere is my sources.list.d folder : http://pastebin.com/NLBt1Ptg22:05
daeavelwynfalktx: no, message stil here even after aptitude update22:05
falktxkxstudio-debian-ubuntus-trusty.list is the one that has the duplicated entry22:08
falktxnot sure how that happened though22:08
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daeavelwynfalktx: yes ! thanks22:09
daeavelwyni remove the entry and it's now working like a charm :)22:09
daeavelwynthanks falktx22:09
daeavelwynand happy new year ;)22:09
falktxhappy new year!22:09
daeavelwyn:)22:10
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