Wednesday, 2016-01-06

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falktxdistrozapper: ping03:41
distrozapperfalktx, ping ACK ;)03:41
falktxthat was quick :)03:41
distrozappergood morning03:41
falktxdistrozapper: I'll push some more updates today for testing, if you can03:41
distrozapperheya OK thanks!03:42
falktxI'm testing it myself first03:42
falktxvery little issues now https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A2.0-beta503:43
distrozapperfalktx, the link doesn't show an entry yet03:47
falktxhm03:47
falktx5 bugs open03:48
falktx?03:48
distrozapperyes 5 bugs open03:48
falktxhmm I think dry/wet is broken for bridges03:49
distrozapperah my fault, I didnt get you right03:49
falktxI'm counting the bugs left for the next beta03:49
distrozapperI see03:49
distrozapper4:50am, I am still booting ;)03:50
falktx3:50am here03:50
falktxholidays are weird. I don't know if I should be awake or asleep03:51
distrozappersame feeling here ;)03:52
falktx20mins already, no issues with standalone03:56
distrozapperyou are testing with ardour4?04:02
distrozapperah no standalone, damn I need a coffee04:02
falktxuploading...04:03
falktx2:1.9.5+git20160106.2 carla-git/lv2/vst and bridge-wine32 to come soon04:03
distrozapper20min stability looks good04:04
falktxI don't have fancy plugins though04:04
distrozapperOK04:05
distrozapperI think I got some04:05
distrozapperupdate visible, downloading04:08
falktxI used to have some of those ahem arrrr! *couch* warez *cough*04:08
falktxI don't feel the need for them anymore04:08
* falktx wonders if AudioGL still works via rewire04:09
distrozapperfalktx, testing started :)04:14
falktxoh, all the updates are there already?04:15
falktxdistrozapper: the bridge-wine32 still pending04:16
distrozapperah yeah that is missing still04:16
distrozapperreceived carla-git 2:1.9.5~git20160106 though04:17
falktx2:1.9.5+git20160106.2 carla-git/lv2/vst and bridge-wine32 to come soon04:19
distrozapperOK, going to WAIT state ;)04:21
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distrozapperreceived carla-bridge-wine32 (2:1.9.5+git20160106.2) et al. Thank you falktx04:36
distrozapperfalktx, are carla-bridge-win32/win64/wine64 still pending?05:00
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distrozapperfalktx, A minor issue by the way: I get winVST GUIs not sized correctly with carla, the window seems too big and has black borders, see http://imgur.com/AP6kVlM  . Is there some setting I have to tune?05:23
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falktxdistrozapper: no, must be a juce bug05:34
distrozapperOK thanks05:35
distrozapperfalktx, seems I compiled carla-bridge-win32 successfully from git. But I will wait for your release to be sure.07:20
falktxshould be there in the repos already07:23
distrozapperhm, apt-get update/dist-upgrade renders no news still.07:27
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falktxI already have the updates07:46
falktxSetting up carla-bridge-wine32 (2:1.9.5+git20160106.2) ...07:46
falktxetc07:46
distrozapperfalktx, OK, seems I got a slow mirror. Anyway thanks for info. I have to leave, I will test further this evening. Have a nice day!07:48
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rghvdbergrncbc: how do I run qtractor in debug mode (via gdb?)08:40
rghvdbergrncbc: I'd like to get a backtrace for the crash with  http://gareus.org/oss/lv2/fil4#stereo08:41
LAbotTitle: x42/fil4.lv2 · GitHub (at gareus.org)08:41
falktxgdb qtractor08:44
falktxthread apply all bt08:44
falktxrun08:44
falktx# wait for crash08:44
falktxbt08:44
rghvdbergok08:44
rghvdberginstalled qtractor-dbg but gdb says : "Reading symbols from qtractor...(no debugging symbols found)...done." is that a problem ?08:45
rghvdbergadd  http://gareus.org/oss/lv2/fil4#stereo to the track : getting loads and loads of xruns when I start play08:47
LAbotTitle: x42/fil4.lv2 · GitHub (at gareus.org)08:47
rghvdbergqtractor won't start ..08:47
rghvdbergwon't start playing I mean08:48
rghvdbergtried to remove the EQ plugin : crash08:48
rghvdbergProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.08:48
rghvdberg[Switching to Thread 0x7fffe166c700 (LWP 18607)]08:48
rghvdberg0x00007fffcc068ef0 in ?? ()08:48
rghvdbergQtractor window still on screen but doesn't react to mouse clicks08:49
rghvdbergshould I force kill ?08:49
rghvdberg(gdb) bt08:51
rghvdbergPython Exception <class 'gdb.MemoryError'> Cannot access memory at address 0x7fffe166b740:08:51
rghvdberg#0  0x00007fffcc068ef0 in ?? ()08:51
rghvdbergCannot access memory at address 0x7fffe166b74008:51
rghvdbergoh got now08:54
rghvdberggot backtrace08:54
rghvdbergwhere to post ?08:54
rghvdberghttp://pastebin.com/HdS6NmzM08:56
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falktxthat's useless09:01
rghvdbergFor a moment I thought I was a real H@CKR :-)09:03
rghvdbergplugin works fine in Ardour4.409:03
rghvdberg"rumour has it that 4.5 will be released soon"09:04
rghvdberg@flaktx is the pastebin useless ? or the thing above that ? I didn't do the "thread apply all bt" .. because I'm stupid09:05
rghvdbergwtf ...09:05
rghvdbergflaktx ????09:05
rghvdbergwell gotta go09:06
rghvdbergbbl09:06
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falktxthere's no symbols at all09:08
falktxat least install qtractor-dbg09:08
falktxbut I might know the issue09:09
falktxtry the vst version of helm and see if it still crashes09:09
rghvdbergdpkg -l | grep qtractor09:09
rghvdbergii  qtractor                                    2:0.7.3-1kxstudio1                                  amd64        MIDI/Audio multi-track sequencer application09:09
rghvdbergii  qtractor-dbg                                2:0.7.3-1kxstudio1                                  amd64        Debugging symbols for Qtractor09:09
rghvdbergreally gotta go now09:09
rghvdbergwill try later09:09
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distrozapperHappy new year to all!17:09
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distrozapperHi@all! Any volunteers here ready for carla-git long-time stability tests against winVST-32bit plugins? I would like to share experience.18:13
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distrozapperfalktx, welcome "home" ;)18:44
falktxheya18:44
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falktxdistrozapper: what's the veredict?18:52
distrozapperfalktx, hehe, none really. I just am unsure if my ubuntu 14.04/kxstudio is really in sync with your repos.18:54
falktxthat's easy to check18:56
falktx$ dpkg -l | grep carla-bridge-win3218:56
falktxii  carla-bridge-win32                          2:1.9.5~git2016010418:56
falktxwait18:56
falktx$ dpkg -l | grep carla-bridge-wine3218:56
falktxii  carla-bridge-wine32                         2:1.9.5+git20160106.218:56
falktxdistrozapper: what's the version you have for carla-bridge-wine32?18:56
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distrozapperfalktx, ii  carla-bridge-wine32 2:1.9.5+git20160106.2 i386 carla win32 bridge (wine DLL)18:58
distrozapperfalktx, I am missing a "newer" carla-bridge-win32, installed here: 2:1.9.5~git20160104  amd64   carla win32 bridge19:01
falktxdistrozapper: no no that one was not updated19:02
distrozapperAh OK19:02
falktxcarla-bridge-win32 remains the same19:02
distrozapperSo I am in sync, thanks19:02
distrozapperfalktx, AFAIK: Sporadic crash of carla-bridge-win32 @ Carla standalone is still present.19:26
distrozapperfalktx, "MTBF" is between 30s and 10 min, I achieved a max at 20min without internet activities/youtube/mp3 audio hearing in parallel.19:31
falktxmaybe it's a crash on the plugin though19:32
falktxdistrozapper: are all crashy? or just specific ones?19:32
distrozapperfalktx, yes, I cannot exclude a plugin failure. The only plugin I tested was Charlatan (I got it from KVR)19:37
distrozapperfalktx, http://www.kvraudio.com/product/charlatan-by-blaukraut-engineering19:39
LAbotTitle: KVR: Charlatan by BlauKraut Engineering - Synth (Analogue / Subtractive) VST Plugin for Windows (at www.kvraudio.com)19:39
falktxI think I have it here19:50
falktxdistrozapper: version 2.0 of charlatan?19:53
distrozapperinvestigating..19:55
distrozapperfalktx, charlatan 2.0 ACK19:57
falktxdistrozapper: do you feed it some midi data constantly?19:58
distrozapperfalktx, yes, via qmidiarp19:59
distrozapperfalktx, like reported in https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/issues/328#issuecomment-167364405, but with jack settings 44100/1024/3 to definitely exclude jack2 xrun problems.20:04
falktxI can't get a decent sound... :(20:07
falktxok better now20:08
falktxI can let this play I think20:10
falktxdistrozapper: qmidiarp lv2 plugin or standalone?20:10
distrozapperfalktx, qmidiarp standalone20:11
falktxgoing a few minutes with this, all fine so far20:12
distrozapperfalktx, qmidiarp standalone started via claudia->Application->Add New->Tool->qmidiarp to be precise20:14
falktxno crashes yet20:22
distrozapperfalktx, OK, let it run on20:28
distrozapperfalktx, if the "heisenberg" does not appear within 2 hours, then you have to tell me a secret ;)20:30
falktxI had to stop it20:32
falktxneed to continue coding other things20:32
distrozapperOK, np20:33
falktxoh got a crash when disconnecting ports20:33
falktxnice, can reproduce it20:34
falktxmeh, crash with eyecandy on. qt stuff20:35
falktxok I'll let it run on the background20:37
distrozapperfalktx, always remember: It is just about...cough...erk..ook..win stuff ;)20:38
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distrozapperBitPuffin|osx, Hi! Do you run carla-git on OSX?21:41
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BitPuffin|osxdistrozapper: nope, didn't know you can21:47
falktxyou can21:56
distrozapperBitPuffin|osx, I cannot, no OSX license/hardware here. I am just curious about how windows-VST plugins work under OSX. Can you tell a bit?21:57
BitPuffin|osxIf I getting around to playing with it I could, but I haven't done much audio work lately :/21:58
BitPuffin|osxand when I do it's usually pretty much all within reaper21:58
falktxwindows vsts on mac is completely unsupported21:59
BitPuffin|osxshouldn't you be able to do something with darwine?22:00
distrozapperBitPuffin|osx, Thanks for reply!22:02
BitPuffin|osxdistrozapper: no problem, sorry I couldn't be of more use :P22:03
falktxit's possible yes22:03
distrozapperBitPuffin|osx, you are welcome!22:03
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falktxhmm that makes me wonder if it's really possible22:06
falktxhttp://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX22:06
LAbotTitle: MacOSX - The Official Wine Wiki (at wiki.winehq.org)22:06
falktxBitPuffin|osx: if I make some osx builds with wine, will you test it?22:07
BitPuffin|osxright now?22:08
BitPuffin|osxI can test it on occasions throughout the week probably22:08
BitPuffin|osxbut when I'm at work I usually don't bring my mac22:08
BitPuffin|osxand when I'm home I usually go straight into streaming22:08
BitPuffin|osxbut I could test things in the window between after streaming and going to sleep22:09
falktxnot right now, in a few days22:09
BitPuffin|osxand the occasional window where I get home and have some time before I sleep22:09
BitPuffin|osxeither way, I can do my best to try to test it, just don't expect it to happen instantly22:09
BitPuffin|osxbut keep nudging me and I think I can get it done :)22:10
falktxping me in 3 days if I don't ping you before :)22:11
BitPuffin|osxokay :D22:12
BitPuffin|osxalso22:12
BitPuffin|osxon weekends I should be able to have more opportunities to test22:12
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falktxdistrozapper: almost 2hours with the sequencer+charlatan plugin going. no crash yet22:26
falktxI actually forgot it was there :)22:26
distrozapperfalktx, heh :) Damn, so what is the secret?22:28
distrozapper;)22:28
distrozapperfalktx, magic smoke?22:30
distrozapperfalktx, I don't really await a scientific answer, since it is Windows-VST-Smoke against Linux-Audio-Smoke...22:35
falktxcould be anything. wine version, wine overrides, system libs, the plugin..22:36
distrozapperACK :)22:37
distrozapperfalktx, I admire your work and would like to accompany you through these win odds22:41
distrozapperfalktx, as long as you think it is worth the work.22:44
falktxif users want it, it's worth it22:46
distrozapperfalktx, so let's go ;)22:46
BitPuffin|osxI wonder what happened to zth22:48
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distrozapperBitPuffin|osx, no idea about zth, "long time no see" here.23:09
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