Tuesday, 2015-11-24

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pater`anyone alive?08:07
pater`ok well im planning on buying a pre built box(had problems on my own) and I was just wondering what specs you all were using/for what08:10
ChaosFan_RAM is most important nowadays.08:11
ChaosFan_HDD as big as you need it to be08:11
pater`I im between a Zareason Mir and a System76 Serval WS. Both are beasts, and im prob gonna get the Sytem74 bc it has 64gb ram vs 32 on the zareason08:12
ChaosFan_basically any modern CPU is fast enough, nowadays they don't really get faster but mainly use less energy than older ones08:12
pater`ok08:12
pater`that was a big help08:12
pater`i was really stuck on the CPU aspect08:12
ChaosFan_all those core i{3,5,7} cpus (and equivalent from AMD) are really just differing in power consumption08:14
ChaosFan_better: power consumption is the main difference08:14
ChaosFan_I'd stay away from i3, but I don't remember the reason why those were worse08:14
pater`gotcha. I gonna get an i7 just to stay up to date and such. Do you know much on firewire to USB?08:15
pater`I should probably check new intefaces but last time there werent really any good 3.0 usbs, and ive in the past been using firewire. However, that box doesnt work well with linux.08:17
ChaosFan_I'm not too up to date on firewire, but as far as I can see it's slowly getting faded out in favor of usb308:19
ChaosFan_and that thunderbolt stuff from apple is meant as a successor I think08:19
pater`yeah, thats what i was thinking =/08:19
pater`i have a macbook pro, havent used it much bc of some crazy life stuff.08:20
pater`i suppose i can just used the interface with the mac and transfer over stuff to the other box(es)08:21
pater`may i ask what your setup is?08:22
ChaosFan_definitely doable until you find a nice usb interface you like, I'd say08:22
pater`right right. that firewire one is old anyhow.08:23
ChaosFan_currently pretty old. a nearly 9 year old desktop pc running debian+kxstudio repos with a m-audio fast track pro interface08:23
ChaosFan_that I bought somewhere around 2004 I think08:23
ChaosFan_definitely want to upgrade rather soon, but I already got myself a 5-string bass and a korg kross this year, so I have to save up again first ;)08:24
pater`is that a usb 2? i know  at least on macs those m audios had pretty low latency outta the box08:24
ChaosFan_it's still usb108:25
ChaosFan_but only 2in/2out, so bandwith is still OK as long as I don't put much else on the same usb controller08:25
ChaosFan_if I were to upgrade I'd currently get one of those focusrite scarlett interfaces08:26
ChaosFan_we've used those at work (we do audio classification stuff) and they're working flawlessly on linux08:26
pater`cool, im working on getting a new bass amp, and getting a grenboy speaker built for me now. i use a 78  gibson grabber and a rickenbacker 2003, plus a ESP with midi piezos added, all 4 string. Got a cheapie 6 im gonna upgrade though.08:27
pater`oh yeah? was just looking at some of those on sweetwater.com08:27
ChaosFan_bass amp is also something I've got to look into at some point08:28
pater`i feel like if i buy one, a 3.0 will come out the next day. that happened with mooog bass murf to midi murf and digitech whammy to bass whammy. within months... bad luck i guess08:29
ChaosFan_currently I'm using the guitarist's bass amp at band rehearsals (Hartke LH-500)  and have a small practice amp at home (ampeg BA-110)08:30
ChaosFan_but the guitarist said he's thinking about selling the head, maybe I can get it cheap from him - I like the sound of it08:31
ChaosFan_I also have an old peavey (don't remember the model name, it's currently in a different band rehearsal room that I share with a couple other people for occasional jam sessions), that was bought around 2000... it's OKish still, but I'd actually only keep the 4x10 cab08:32
pater`yeah i  have an aguilar tonehammer pre/DI, gonna get a crest pro lite 3 power amp unless i go wild and get a crown or something else way powerful, else ill need another power amp later withwhat i plan on cabs08:32
ChaosFan_the hartke is run through 2 1x15 cabs... you feel the notes before you hear them *g*08:33
pater`I have the ba-115, pretty solid. Hartke's are great from what i hear, never used one08:33
pater`cool :)08:33
ChaosFan_first time using the hartke i totally messed up the eq... flat eq on that thing is at bass 2/mid 8/treble 3 or something odd like that (on scales from 1-10, so 5 being center)08:35
ChaosFan_so you have a lot of room to pump up the bass08:35
pater`if you wanna drool id check out greenboy cabs, theyre made to specs but no main company really. heres where im getting mine from, http://greenboyaudio.com/08:36
LAbot`Title: greenboy audio (at greenboyaudio.com)08:36
pater`ive had headroom probs forever!08:36
pater`i have an ampeg B5-r. sounds great, no headroom. Cant get any out of a tube Peavey classic 60/60 either. My main can is an 8x8, SWR Henry the 8x8.08:38
ChaosFan_those are pretty pricey08:39
pater`Thats why i plan to go overboard on power when i buy a again08:39
pater`yeah08:39
ChaosFan_and sadly I have more pressing issues I need to fix first08:40
ChaosFan_at my current band I switch between bass and keys, and I don't have any amplification/monitoring for the keys. currently I go through the PA, which somewhat works, but I'd realy like a more direct feedback08:41
ChaosFan_something like a laney ah-150 or something like that would be great08:41
pater`but theyre quite nice, handbuilt, and the 1x15 im getting as well as the others are way loud for the specs. i tried a local guys and it sold me.08:42
pater`laney! cool08:42
ChaosFan_but I need to convince my wife that it's necessary first ;) the usual problem...08:43
pater`BTW these grenboys and sonically neutral and can be used as PA speakers. another reson im getting one. can run all my nutso noise and keys etc thru it08:43
pater`lol, hey at least you have a wife =P08:44
pater`i just find crazy women over and over. it s a curse!08:45
ChaosFan_already had a hard time getting the Kross (which I mainly bought because it only weighs 4.8kg - compared to my main keyboard's 21.5kg [Kawai MP6]). had to resort to calling it "an investment into a healthy spine"08:45
pater`i hear that, the spinal investment!08:46
pater`antoehr reason im willing to pay for that cab, theyre light, and i cant sustain having to ge help with a cab less my back be messed up all night08:47
pater`what kinda stuff you play? genre wise08:48
ChaosFan_rock/postrock stuff in the band08:55
ChaosFan_but the band is pretty young, we only have 2 songs so far that are somewhat finished (no vocals yet as we want to get some more songs together before looking for a vocalist)08:56
pater`Im not currently with anyone, but i usually play finger funk/blues rock with a progressive bit in there if possible. Hard to find anyone whos not flaky though08:58
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pater`Im actually thinking about keeping with this solo weirdo stuff im doing, dunno. Ideally id like to find peoplw for some low/slow psychedelic rock but i doubt i will09:01
pater`Im at the point where if the musicians are talented and commited i go back to playing crossover thrash metal.09:02
pater`Im in jacksonville, fl and the music scene isnt so great.09:02
ChaosFan_I'm in germany09:11
ChaosFan_but i've been at that point right until I found those 2 guys I'm playing with now09:12
pater`Im jealous. The USA is wacky. esp Florida. where i live, I get harassed and illegally searched by cops for having long hair. its wild09:16
ChaosFan_ah yeah09:43
ChaosFan_not as bad, but when i've been driving an old VW bus (like those "hippie mobiles") with my long hair I got stopped by police and searched for drugs nearly weekly09:44
pater`=/09:44
ChaosFan_that was in southern bavaria, though. most anti-drug part of germany09:46
pater`i know some like minded people who are really clean cut with gratful dead stuff on their cars who dont get harassed. I have no stickers and a toyota corolla and get pulled over. frustrating.09:47
ChaosFan_yeah, the "power" of long hair on guys... I know that pretty well ;)09:48
pater`=)09:48
ChaosFan_but it's better now that I'm in my 30ies, got stopped/checked by police way more often when I was in my early twenties09:49
pater`im 29, but theres something about me... people think im high all the time. my friends often jump in when someone asks what im on and tell whoever its just me.09:51
pater`very odd. im tired a lot, could be it. dunno. everybody thought i was a stoner i high school before id ever even been to a party lol09:52
ChaosFan_;)09:52
ChaosFan_tired alot because you don't sleep much?09:54
pater`dunno if you get this, but... ill be at a store or something and get this look.. from my hair and dress or whatever. I say something intelligent and they sorta are weirded out.09:55
pater`yeah09:55
ChaosFan_oh yeah I know that feeling09:55
pater`plus i might have chronic fatigue... i dunno. but i dont sleep enough. might have major sleep debt, dunno.09:56
ChaosFan_most memorable instance for me was meeting my professor at a supermarket and asking him about a PhD position - got really weird looks, especially when he said yes09:56
pater`ok, first person to ever confirm/relate to that. thanks, i was starting to feel like it was in my head or something.09:57
pater`ahh  man, that sucks. the bright side for me is it helps filter whos judgmental09:58
ChaosFan_yep, definitely09:58
ChaosFan_those are just not worth your time09:58
ChaosFan_and I simple stopped caring about weird looks in public09:59
pater`indeed!09:59
pater`im the local space alien... that how i refer it it, sorta rural suburb of the city. i got to the store in a music shirt and its just an orgy of those looks10:01
pater`sometimes its fun/ny, sometimes annoying but yeah i mostly dont care.10:03
pater`doing some woodwork, and the other week a clerk told me not to inhale paint stripper i was buying. i just say "ok" and left heh10:05
ChaosFan_lol... some people...10:14
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louigifalktx`: hey man20:48
louigican I ask you smth20:48
louigiCan you theoretically compile Giada for me that would have PulseAudio option? Giada devs did not get back to me in time, meetup is tomorrow... ugh20:49
louigiWould be a pity if Giada is not available20:49
falktx`why does it need pulseaudio?20:55
falktx`*you20:56
falktx`the author deb files include pulseaudio20:56
louigifalktx`: because there is a suspicion that it freezes under JACK but not PulseAudio20:59
louigifalktx`: the author deb includes, but remember - it does not launch20:59
louigiOnly your version launches, author deb asks for midirt20:59
louigiI don't know where to get it21:00
louigiI can try - but where? I googled - nothing21:00
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falktx`let's see21:10
falktx`hmm works fine here on 14.0421:10
falktx`louigi: which distro are you using?21:10
falktx`ah wait21:11
falktx`giada_lin: error while loading shared libraries: librtmidi.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory21:11
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falktx`that deb is bad :(21:12
falktx`louigi: this one works here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtmidi/2.1.0~ds0-3/+build/6091247/+files/librtmidi2_2.1.0%7Eds0-3_amd64.deb21:14
louigifalktx`: danke, will install and try!21:15
louigifalktx`: works! Big thanks!21:19
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louigiGreat - now it does not re-open samples in projects.21:25
louigiUh oh21:25
louigiOh well. What can I say21:26
louigiThe pity is that for months Giada was very stable and usable and was a great example of a wonderful Linux Audio package. But when you most need it - it just faults21:33
louigifalktx`: man, big thx for your help!21:48
louigiI will try to record the meeting if I can21:48
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distrozapperfalktx`: Have a nice night!23:23
distrozapperfalktx`: We worry about your health :)23:24
* distrozapper just likes sleeping and hopes falktx gets enough sleep for himself.23:39
* distrozapper casts good night to all. byebye!23:45
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