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| sirriffsalot | Any suggestion on how to best avoid sessions getting screwed up as a result of updating, say, calf plugins? | 04:04 |
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| sirriffsalot | Besides having to downgrade the package to previous release etc | 04:06 |
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| louigi | So, guys. What's up. Channel is awfully quiet. Everyone's at work? | 16:31 |
| holstein | it can be quiet | 16:32 |
| holstein | #opensourcemusicians is often more active.. for general chat.. | 16:32 |
| falktx | I'm at work, yes | 16:32 |
| louigi | holstein: hey ) | 16:33 |
| louigi | long time no talk | 16:33 |
| louigi | Like - super long time. Centuries! | 16:33 |
| holstein | years, probably :) | 16:33 |
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| fubsan | hellou | 18:31 |
| fubsan | quick question, anyone here has set up a scarlett device, ideally 18i8? | 18:31 |
| holstein | the usb one? | 18:31 |
| holstein | fubsan: ^ | 18:32 |
| fubsan | jeap | 18:32 |
| holstein | jeap? | 18:32 |
| fubsan | es | 18:32 |
| holstein | is that, yes? | 18:32 |
| fubsan | yes | 18:32 |
| fubsan | :D | 18:32 |
| holstein | well, it should be just "class compliant".. | 18:32 |
| holstein | .g alsa matrix | 18:32 |
| fubsan | alsamixer shows it as 18i8 | 18:32 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main | 18:32 |
| LAbot` | Title: Matrix:Main - AlsaProject (at www.alsa-project.org) | 18:32 |
| fubsan | alsamixer only shows internal | 18:32 |
| fubsan | nice pulseaudio nor jack will start | 18:32 |
| holstein | i would expect to configure jack, and, check it after reboots | 18:33 |
| holstein | those alsa labels can change.. | 18:33 |
| holstein | what i typically do is, if possible, just disable the internal audio device.. so, the "default" is the USB device.. if thats not an option, i'll just try and manually select that USB device in jack, and see if it works | 18:33 |
| fubsan | i have no idea how i would disable it | 18:35 |
| fubsan | Tue Nov 17 20:33:36 2015: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10 | 18:35 |
| fubsan | Tue Nov 17 20:33:36 2015: ERROR: cannot register object path "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio4": A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio4 | 18:35 |
| fubsan | Tue Nov 17 20:33:36 2015: ERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio4 error : A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio4 | 18:35 |
| fubsan | Tue Nov 17 20:33:36 2015: ERROR: Audio device hw:USB,0 cannot be acquired... | 18:35 |
| fubsan | Tue Nov 17 20:33:36 2015: ERROR: Cannot initialize driver | 18:35 |
| fubsan | Tue Nov 17 20:33:36 2015: ERROR: JackServer::Open failed with -1 | 18:35 |
| fubsan | is the log output tho | 18:35 |
| holstein | well, as i suggested, i would do that in the bios | 18:35 |
| fubsan | ah | 18:35 |
| fubsan | i'll try that | 18:35 |
| fubsan | brb | 18:35 |
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| holstein | but, thats not a "fix". just a simple suggestion to help simplify the multiple careds | 18:35 |
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| fubsan | nope | 18:46 |
| fubsan | no such option | 18:46 |
| fubsan | trying a newer kernel.. now i actually have one fader in alsa mixer | 18:47 |
| fubsan | still jack wont start | 18:47 |
| holstein | i dont think its a kernel issue, since, you are finding support listed | 18:47 |
| holstein | you can use the command "aplay -l" and see what the kernel and alsa are ffinding, and attempting to support | 18:47 |
| holstein | i think its more likely the jack config breaking the setup for you | 18:47 |
| fubsan | well not much of a config there.. duplex, select usb0 for both input and output.. the rest i left as it was.. and i played with the number of channels | 18:48 |
| fubsan | but error message still essentially is ERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio4 error : A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio4 | 18:48 |
| holstein | sure, and "as-is" will be the way it was configured for the internal audio | 18:49 |
| holstein | so, that wont work | 18:49 |
| fubsan | as is meaning in ladish :D | 18:50 |
| fubsan | well it works that way on my large machine with firewire.. just select firewire, audio card.. and that's that | 18:50 |
| holstein | well, in whatever you choose to config jack.. | 18:50 |
| holstein | right.. but, that "firewire" driver is different.. the alsa labels cant be trusted as easily | 18:51 |
| fubsan | ah ok | 18:51 |
| fubsan | well it's the only usb one given | 18:51 |
| holstein | i too have firewire.. have had it work, and been using kxstudio, plugged the random usb device in, it didnt work.. assumed it was a lot of things. then, ended up running a live iso, selected the USB, and it worked | 18:51 |
| fubsan | weird | 18:51 |
| holstein | so, i went back to checking the jack config.. which, can be 'wrong' at reboot.. since, the alsa labels can change | 18:52 |
| fubsan | reboot is fun on its own | 18:52 |
| fubsan | after reboot it wont see the device | 18:52 |
| fubsan | i have to switch it off and on first | 18:52 |
| holstein | i have seen that as well.. | 18:52 |
| fubsan | how do i find out the correct label t ho | 18:52 |
| fubsan | though | 18:52 |
| holstein | its typically, when, one is hacking a device onto an operating system it doesnt support | 18:52 |
| fubsan | class compliant :P hehe | 18:52 |
| holstein | fubsan: i ususually just try them all, and see which one works.. | 18:53 |
| holstein | which label, that is.. | 18:53 |
| holstein | since, there are usually just a few in the config.. | 18:53 |
| fubsan | jeah just the onboard, 3 hdmi and one usb | 18:55 |
| fubsan | and they all work but none are the 18i8 | 18:57 |
| holstein | the "one usb" should be it | 18:58 |
| holstein | since, its the only usb audio device | 18:58 |
| fubsan | jeah still.. can't acquire bla error | 19:00 |
| fubsan | googling around... | 19:00 |
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| fubsan | hm.. nope.. no luck thus far.. even updated the firmware on a win machine | 19:22 |
| holstein | i wouldnt expect an update to help. i have had it make it worse | 19:26 |
| holstein | you can try using pavucontrol to route something to the device in pulse | 19:27 |
| fubsan | aha | 19:30 |
| fubsan | wait | 19:30 |
| fubsan | maybe now :D | 19:30 |
| fubsan | had to force install the trusty version of qjackctl for qjackctl to work | 19:30 |
| fubsan | and now i see it reports more devices than cadence | 19:30 |
| fubsan | there is hw:USB which has the scarlett name next to it and hw:USB0 which doesnt | 19:31 |
| holstein | well, thats just a GUI | 19:31 |
| holstein | anyways.. you cant trust those alsa labels, for sure | 19:31 |
| fubsan | jeah but im not using the pulldown menu | 19:32 |
| fubsan | i use the arrow next to it | 19:32 |
| fubsan | hm | 19:32 |
| fubsan | jeh didnt work anyway | 19:32 |
| holstein | i usually just try them all.. with only that usb device connected.. no hubs | 19:32 |
| holstein | i'll try with a live iso.. | 19:32 |
| fubsan | i will try also #alsa | 19:40 |
| fubsan | maybe someone knows something obvious | 19:40 |
| holstein | well, they will be able to tell you what is from the page.. | 19:42 |
| holstein | but, i say, test alsa, with a live iso, alone, and see if its working.. try routing to pulse audio through pavucontrol there as well.. then, you can tackle jack, and then your specific installation | 19:42 |
| fubsan | now it just worked :D | 19:43 |
| fubsan | strange | 19:43 |
| fubsan | i didnt change anything | 19:43 |
| fubsan | that made no sense :D | 19:44 |
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| fubsan | nope still something dodgy | 19:53 |
| fubsan | jack started but no sound | 19:53 |
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| holstein | well, at least you konw it works, so, you can stop updating alsa, and kernels.. etc.. and just look at your jack config.. | 19:53 |
| NoteOn | hi | 19:55 |
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| holstein | o/ | 19:57 |
| NoteOn | in kx 14.04 if I change to other DE, I need For XFCE -> 'kxstudio-desktop-xfce' like? | 19:58 |
| NoteOn | kx is KXStudio_14.04.2_32bit | 19:59 |
| holstein | you can use that.. or, just xfce.. | 20:00 |
| holstein | i would try the metapackage you reference. | 20:00 |
| NoteOn | sorry doc is old.. ahhh | 20:00 |
| NoteOn | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Repository:Upgrade | 20:00 |
| LAbot` | Title: KXStudio : Documentation (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 20:00 |
| NoteOn | 12'x's. | 20:00 |
| NoteOn | I think I need just like debian, ubuntu .. just add de.. I think | 20:01 |
| NoteOn | cause only few part of kde can't work. and im tired.. to fight. | 20:01 |
| holstein | you can just install xfce, or the desktop metapackage you reference | 20:03 |
| NoteOn | ic | 20:03 |
| NoteOn | and in persistence there is still tryit/install part I need to check boot part | 20:04 |
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