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G-Hell | Hello | 14:51 |
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falktx | hi | 16:06 |
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Yruama_Lairba | hello | 18:09 |
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menno_ | i can styart muse on one 64 bit machine but not on the other | 19:52 |
menno_ | using Cadence, Jack etc. | 19:52 |
menno_ | there is no real error | 19:53 |
menno_ | when i start myuse from the terminal, the last thing before it hanges, is: | 19:54 |
menno_ | RemoteVSTClient: all cache files are up-to-date, not running scanner | 19:54 |
menno_ | RemoteVSTClient: all cache files are up-to-date, not running scanner | 19:54 |
menno_ | any ideas? | 19:55 |
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dreamer | has anyone here used wine to program their midi devices? I'm trying to change the settings on my mpd18 (installed the software with playonlinux). when starting the program it can see a2jmidi, all the midi through ports and qtractor. but I can't seem to connect it (tried running through a midithrough-channel as well). any ideas? | 21:01 |
dreamer | I don't see it in claudia | 21:02 |
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Yruama_Lairba | try catia instead | 21:05 |
dreamer | I see 'wine alsa' in patchage | 21:05 |
dreamer | Yruama_Lairba: ok | 21:05 |
Yruama_Lairba | some apps arn't well supported with LADISH and theire frontend like claudia or gladish | 21:07 |
dreamer | nope | 21:07 |
dreamer | that would be 'wine' in this case I guess | 21:07 |
dreamer | a2jmid should see it though right? | 21:07 |
dreamer | or maybe because it wasn't started from ladish? | 21:07 |
Yruama_Lairba | what you see in patchage ( or catia) ? | 21:08 |
dreamer | in catia nothing. in patchage I see 'wine alsa' in alsa midi (catia and claudia merge all views, patchage has separate colours for alsa and jack midi). and it's connected to the through ports | 21:10 |
dreamer | when I ran it connecting to a2jmidi | 21:10 |
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Yruama_Lairba | lol, ok,if i correctly understood, wine and Qtractor use both ALSA midi, so you don't normally need to launch a2jmidi | 21:16 |
dreamer | I don't want to connect it to qtractor .. | 21:20 |
dreamer | I want to connect it to my midi-device | 21:20 |
Yruama_Lairba | sorry | 21:20 |
autostatic | been a while ago, I vaguely recall you have to tick a box somewhere in winecfg | 21:21 |
Yruama_Lairba | Have you an ALSA midi - port four your mpd18 ? | 21:21 |
dreamer | yes | 21:22 |
dreamer | I tried connecting it in patchage, but not very good results | 21:22 |
autostatic | but it is possible, I programmed my MPK Mini and BCR2000 with Wine | 21:22 |
dreamer | will try on a different computer to see if I can program it | 21:22 |
dreamer | with just plain alsa running only | 21:22 |
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dreamer | so, on my other machine I see the mpd18 straight in the selection menu | 21:26 |
dreamer | didn't even touch a patcher | 21:26 |
falktx | using windows/wine stuff? | 21:27 |
dreamer | yup | 21:27 |
dreamer | have to if I want to program all these controllers | 21:27 |
dreamer | autostatic: I also have an mpd mini that I programmed on this other machine (debian with kxstudio repos) | 21:27 |
falktx | some apps don't handle more than 16 devices, which kx activates by default | 21:27 |
dreamer | seems it works better if there's just alsa running | 21:28 |
dreamer | falktx: I see. because all of the through ports where connected | 21:28 |
falktx | dreamer: edit /etc/modprobe.d/snd-seq-dummy_16.conf and change 16 to 1 | 21:28 |
falktx | yes | 21:28 |
dreamer | cool | 21:28 |
falktx | change that file and reboot. it should work again | 21:28 |
dreamer | reboot the machine? ahw :( | 21:28 |
falktx | you can also rmmod snd-seq-dummy | 21:28 |
dreamer | that's what I figured ;) | 21:29 |
dreamer | actually, I have some kernel updates waiting. probably a good idea | 21:31 |
dreamer | falktx: btw. how do I make sure that the low latency kernel is selected on boot? | 21:31 |
dreamer | right now it keeps booting to generic | 21:32 |
falktx | remove the generic one ;) | 21:32 |
dreamer | hehe ok | 21:33 |
* dreamer crosses fingers | 21:33 | |
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dreamer | does anyone have any tips on how to use the midi clock? | 22:16 |
dreamer | I see this bpm thing in claudia, but how do I set it? | 22:16 |
dreamer | syncing between applications | 22:16 |
dreamer | I read that you need a master, but how do I know where to set it? | 22:17 |
falktx | you mean jack transport | 22:18 |
dreamer | I guess | 22:30 |
dreamer | I found how to set qtractor as master. and when I change the bpm there I see it in claudia. so that works I think | 22:30 |
dreamer | however my mpd18 isn't picking up on in. I've set it to external clock (internal definitely off). and even connected midi from qtractor (which I'm assuming should not be needed, right?) | 22:31 |
falktx | you need a tool to send mtc or midi clock to that device | 22:32 |
falktx | unless qtractor does that, not sure | 22:32 |
falktx | rncbc might know | 22:32 |
dreamer | hmmm | 22:32 |
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falktx | dreamer: this might help http://www.teuton.org/~gabriel/jack_midi_clock/ | 22:33 |
LAbot | Title: JACK MIDI Clock Utility to send MIDI Clock pulses that follow the JACK Transport (at www.teuton.org) | 22:33 |
rncbc | qtractor does midi-clock in/out , but no midi-mtc | 22:33 |
dreamer | falktx: I actually ran in to that. hmm | 22:37 |
dreamer | I think I'll have to look more closely at this later | 22:37 |
dreamer | thanks for the help guys | 22:37 |
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dreamer | rncbc: read your interview with libre music production today. cheers ;) | 22:38 |
rncbc | dreamer: yw | 22:39 |
dreamer | so far qtractor seems like the most suitable solution for what I want to do (mostly record/edit/play midi) | 22:39 |
rncbc | dreamer: glad it works for you | 22:43 |
rncbc | dreamer: thanks | 22:44 |
falktx | interview with libremusic? how did I miss that? | 22:44 |
falktx | was it recent? | 22:44 |
dreamer | well, still figuring it out, but it's a lot easier to get to work than rosegarden or non-sequencer | 22:44 |
dreamer | if only I can get this clock thing to work .. | 22:45 |
dreamer | (having issue with jackdbus that doesn't want to die on this machine) | 22:45 |
rncbc | falktx: almost 2years ago iirc | 22:45 |
falktx | oh ok :) | 22:45 |
falktx | mine was around that time too | 22:45 |
dreamer | "how much has changed since then" | 22:45 |
dreamer | falktx: http://libremusicproduction.com/articles/friday-interview-12-rui-nuno-capela | 22:46 |
LAbot | Title: Friday Interview #12: Rui Nuno Capela | Libre Music Production (at libremusicproduction.com) | 22:46 |
falktx | I was on the old zthmusic stuff | 22:46 |
falktx | before zth started the libremusic stuff | 22:46 |
dreamer | rncbc: I'd like that fancy theme of yours (@ qtractor screenshots). except I don't use kde and don't want to colour my other applications like that hehe | 22:47 |
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rncbc | dreamer: you can set it exlusively to qtractor: set color scheme to wonton soup and style to plastique (options in qtractor). | 22:48 |
dreamer | rncbc: I wouldn't know how to set the theme without kde | 22:49 |
rncbc | dreamer: you don't need kde, those are custom options on qtractor alone | 22:49 |
dreamer | oh, are they? | 22:50 |
dreamer | hmm strange. I'm missing the menu-bar at the top on this machine | 22:50 |
dreamer | that's odd | 22:50 |
* dreamer running in fluxbox | 22:51 | |
rncbc | dreamer: View/Options.../Display/Custom: Color and Style theme options | 22:51 |
dreamer | yes, I don't have the menu-bar | 22:51 |
dreamer | oddly enough | 22:51 |
rncbc | dreamer: ctrl+m | 22:51 |
dreamer | woah | 22:51 |
dreamer | rncbc: thnx. looking good | 22:52 |
dreamer | (never imagined that shortcut hehe) | 22:52 |
rncbc | dreamer: you probably hit it somewhen before | 22:53 |
dreamer | heh. perhaps | 22:56 |
dreamer | anyway. thnx for the help and ttyl | 22:56 |
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dreamer | falktx: couldn't resist a quit try. seems jack_midi_clock works. too bad I don't see the clock on the mpd18 led (it should its internal clock there) | 23:05 |
falktx | did you do the connections? | 23:05 |
dreamer | yes | 23:06 |
dreamer | from the manual: "The LED will not flash if Note Repeat is synced to an external clock" | 23:06 |
dreamer | so, that's as expected :) | 23:06 |
dreamer | I checked with midisnoop. if I don't connect jack_midi_clock there's no output (I'm trying with the note-repeat function) | 23:06 |
dreamer | when I connect it there is | 23:07 |
falktx | you need ot connect jack-midi-clock output to the hw | 23:07 |
falktx | via jack patchbay | 23:07 |
dreamer | yes, I just said I did that. didn't I? | 23:07 |
falktx | ok ok | 23:08 |
dreamer | anyway. it works. just set the clock of qtractor really low. and the note repeat is very slow as well | 23:08 |
dreamer | so, succes \o/ | 23:08 |
dreamer | and way past sleeptime | 23:08 |
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