Wednesday, 2015-11-11

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falktxhi16:06
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Yruama_Lairbahello18:09
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menno_i can styart muse on one 64 bit machine but not on the other19:52
menno_using Cadence, Jack etc.19:52
menno_there is no real error19:53
menno_when i start myuse from the terminal, the last thing before it hanges, is:19:54
menno_RemoteVSTClient: all cache files are up-to-date, not running scanner19:54
menno_RemoteVSTClient: all cache files are up-to-date, not running scanner19:54
menno_any ideas?19:55
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dreamerhas anyone here used wine to program their midi devices? I'm trying to change the settings on my mpd18 (installed the software with playonlinux). when starting the program it can see a2jmidi, all the midi through ports and qtractor. but I can't seem to connect it (tried running through a midithrough-channel as well). any ideas?21:01
dreamerI don't see it in claudia21:02
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Yruama_Lairbatry catia instead21:05
dreamerI see 'wine alsa' in patchage21:05
dreamerYruama_Lairba: ok21:05
Yruama_Lairbasome apps arn't well supported with LADISH and theire frontend like claudia or gladish21:07
dreamernope21:07
dreamerthat would be 'wine' in this case I guess21:07
dreamera2jmid should see it though right?21:07
dreameror maybe because it wasn't started from ladish?21:07
Yruama_Lairbawhat you see in patchage ( or catia) ?21:08
dreamerin catia nothing. in patchage I see 'wine alsa' in alsa midi (catia and claudia merge all views, patchage has separate colours for alsa and jack midi). and it's connected to the through ports21:10
dreamerwhen I ran it connecting to a2jmidi21:10
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Yruama_Lairbalol, ok,if i correctly understood, wine and Qtractor use both ALSA midi, so you don't normally need to launch a2jmidi21:16
dreamerI don't want to connect it to qtractor ..21:20
dreamerI want to connect it to my midi-device21:20
Yruama_Lairbasorry21:20
autostaticbeen a while ago, I vaguely recall you have to tick a box somewhere in winecfg21:21
Yruama_LairbaHave you an ALSA midi - port four your mpd18 ?21:21
dreameryes21:22
dreamerI tried connecting it in patchage, but not very good results21:22
autostaticbut it is possible, I programmed my MPK Mini and BCR2000 with Wine21:22
dreamerwill try on a different computer to see if I can program it21:22
dreamerwith just plain alsa running only21:22
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dreamerso, on my other machine I see the mpd18 straight in the selection menu21:26
dreamerdidn't even touch a patcher21:26
falktxusing windows/wine stuff?21:27
dreameryup21:27
dreamerhave to if I want to program all these controllers21:27
dreamerautostatic: I also have an mpd mini that I programmed on this other machine (debian with kxstudio repos)21:27
falktxsome apps don't handle more than 16 devices, which kx activates by default21:27
dreamerseems it works better if there's just alsa running21:28
dreamerfalktx: I see. because all of the through ports where connected21:28
falktxdreamer: edit /etc/modprobe.d/snd-seq-dummy_16.conf and change 16 to 121:28
falktxyes21:28
dreamercool21:28
falktxchange that file and reboot. it should work again21:28
dreamerreboot the machine? ahw :(21:28
falktxyou can also rmmod snd-seq-dummy21:28
dreamerthat's what I figured ;)21:29
dreameractually, I have some kernel updates waiting. probably a good idea21:31
dreamerfalktx: btw. how do I make sure that the low latency kernel is selected on boot?21:31
dreamerright now it keeps booting to generic21:32
falktxremove the generic one ;)21:32
dreamerhehe ok21:33
* dreamer crosses fingers21:33
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dreamerdoes anyone have any tips on how to use the midi clock?22:16
dreamerI see this bpm thing in claudia, but how do I set it?22:16
dreamersyncing between applications22:16
dreamerI read that you need a master, but how do I know where to set it?22:17
falktxyou mean jack transport22:18
dreamerI guess22:30
dreamerI found how to set qtractor as master. and when I change the bpm there I see it in claudia. so that works I think22:30
dreamerhowever my mpd18 isn't picking up on in. I've set it to external clock (internal definitely off). and even connected midi from qtractor (which I'm assuming should not be needed, right?)22:31
falktxyou need a tool to send mtc or midi clock to that device22:32
falktxunless qtractor does that, not sure22:32
falktxrncbc might know22:32
dreamerhmmm22:32
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falktxdreamer: this might help http://www.teuton.org/~gabriel/jack_midi_clock/22:33
LAbotTitle: JACK MIDI Clock Utility to send MIDI Clock pulses that follow the JACK Transport (at www.teuton.org)22:33
rncbcqtractor does midi-clock in/out , but no midi-mtc22:33
dreamerfalktx: I actually ran in to that. hmm22:37
dreamerI think I'll have to look more closely at this later22:37
dreamerthanks for the help guys22:37
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dreamerrncbc: read your interview with libre music production today. cheers ;)22:38
rncbcdreamer: yw22:39
dreamerso far qtractor seems like the most suitable solution for what I want to do (mostly record/edit/play midi)22:39
rncbcdreamer: glad it works for you22:43
rncbcdreamer: thanks22:44
falktxinterview with libremusic? how did I miss that?22:44
falktxwas it recent?22:44
dreamerwell, still figuring it out, but it's a lot easier to get to work than rosegarden or non-sequencer22:44
dreamerif only I can get this clock thing to work ..22:45
dreamer(having issue with jackdbus that doesn't want to die on this machine)22:45
rncbcfalktx: almost 2years ago iirc22:45
falktxoh ok :)22:45
falktxmine was around that time too22:45
dreamer"how much has changed since then"22:45
dreamerfalktx: http://libremusicproduction.com/articles/friday-interview-12-rui-nuno-capela22:46
LAbotTitle: Friday Interview #12: Rui Nuno Capela | Libre Music Production (at libremusicproduction.com)22:46
falktxI was on the old zthmusic stuff22:46
falktxbefore zth started the libremusic stuff22:46
dreamerrncbc: I'd like that fancy theme of yours (@ qtractor screenshots). except I don't use kde and don't want to colour my other applications like that hehe22:47
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rncbcdreamer: you can set it exlusively to qtractor: set color scheme to wonton soup and style to plastique (options in qtractor).22:48
dreamerrncbc: I wouldn't know how to set the theme without kde22:49
rncbcdreamer: you don't need kde, those are custom options on qtractor alone22:49
dreameroh, are they?22:50
dreamerhmm strange. I'm missing the menu-bar at the top on this machine22:50
dreamerthat's odd22:50
* dreamer running in fluxbox22:51
rncbcdreamer: View/Options.../Display/Custom: Color and Style theme options22:51
dreameryes, I don't have the menu-bar22:51
dreameroddly enough22:51
rncbcdreamer: ctrl+m22:51
dreamerwoah22:51
dreamerrncbc: thnx. looking good22:52
dreamer(never imagined that shortcut hehe)22:52
rncbcdreamer: you probably hit it somewhen before22:53
dreamerheh. perhaps22:56
dreameranyway. thnx for the help and ttyl22:56
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dreamerfalktx: couldn't resist a quit try. seems jack_midi_clock works. too bad I don't see the clock on the mpd18 led (it should its internal clock there)23:05
falktxdid you do the connections?23:05
dreameryes23:06
dreamerfrom the manual: "The LED will not flash if Note Repeat is synced to an external clock"23:06
dreamerso, that's as expected :)23:06
dreamerI checked with midisnoop. if I don't connect jack_midi_clock there's no output (I'm trying with the note-repeat function)23:06
dreamerwhen I connect it there is23:07
falktxyou need ot connect jack-midi-clock output to the hw23:07
falktxvia jack patchbay23:07
dreameryes, I just said I did that. didn't I?23:07
falktxok ok23:08
dreameranyway. it works. just set the clock of qtractor really low. and the note repeat is very slow as well23:08
dreamerso, succes \o/23:08
dreamerand way past sleeptime23:08
* dreamer goes to listen to the songs in his dreams23:08
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