Monday, 2015-11-09

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rghvdberghi, calf reverb is crashing ardour :-(08:16
rghvdbergoh .. also roomy is crashing ardour :-/08:23
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rghvdberghi falktx08:24
rghvdbergardour is suddenly crashing08:24
rghvdberg1st I thought Calf Reverb was acting up, but also roomy crashed ardour08:25
rghvdbergchecking recent updates ... hold on08:26
rghvdberglinux-firmware and linux-libc-dev were updated, but not the kernel and headers08:27
rghvdbergupdating now, maybe it'll help08:27
rghvdbergsystem seems slow and laggy anyway ..08:28
rghvdbergrebooting brb08:28
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rghvdbergoh ... input gain and output gain was at +36 db ...08:32
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louigiDoes anyone know if Linux has any sort of an app that can make abstract animations - you know, like in screensavers, when various shapes float and modulate, etc10:47
autostaticlouigi: ProjectM maybe? http://projectm.sourceforge.net/ Or are you lokking for someting else?11:09
LAbotTitle: projectM (at projectm.sourceforge.net)11:09
falktxI have a plugin for that actually, called ProM11:09
falktxhttps://github.com/DISTRHO/ProM11:09
falktxpart of the dpf-plugins package11:10
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louigiautostatic: hm, I don;t know, the link does not open for me11:25
louigioh, now it opened11:25
louigiCould be what I want, yes!11:25
autostatic:)11:26
falktxhttps://i.imgur.com/EkKBK2Z.png11:26
autostaticMake sure you use falktx' version11:26
falktxmeh, my version just makes it useful as a plugin11:27
falktxthe standalone does the same thing11:27
louigiI see the projectm-jack thing. Is this it falktx ?11:28
falktxnope, that's the standalone11:28
falktxfor the plugin version install dpf-plugins11:28
autostaticSoul Force, wasn't that some guitar fx?11:28
falktxthe plugin is called "ProM"11:28
falktxyeah11:28
louigiah, those I already have installed11:29
falktxautostatic: http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/soulforce.htm11:29
LAbotTitle: ndc plugs - Soul Force! (at www.niallmoody.com)11:29
louigiYesterday I used XaoS to create some abstract graphics11:29
falktxI started porting those to linux https://github.com/DISTRHO/ndc-Plugs11:29
autostaticNice!11:30
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louigiI wonder what is the best tool to make a video clip on Linux. I mean with the video editing difficulties.... I am once again thinking of trying out Cinelerra12:38
louigiOpenShot 2.0 perhaps is never coming out12:38
louigiAnd when it is - chances are it will be buggy as hell12:38
louigiIt always looks better on dev's computer, but when you install it on your own, disappointment is emminent )))12:39
louigiHere is the September update on it: http://www.openshotvideo.com/12:39
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louigiautostatic: do you know if you can customize things in projectm?12:41
autostaticTbh, I've never tried ProjectM :(12:42
louigiI am looking at it now12:42
louigiVery beautiful, but I would like to be able to control it more as it just switched from scene to another scene really fast12:42
autostaticHow about KDEnlive for video editing? Or Pitivi?12:42
louigiautostatic: yeah, last time I tried both of them I had problems. I will try again :(12:43
falktxit has some key input12:44
louigiListening to my old work - Houseman. Not a bad bunch of tracks. Always nice to look back at one's work and find out it is not absolute crap12:45
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louigiI wonder how do you create those presets13:02
louigiI mean for projectM13:04
louigiSomeone is writing this13:04
falktxthey are milkdrop files13:06
louigiyet another thing for me to research!13:09
louigiGuys, can anyone have a test listen of a droning piece?13:09
falktxI can, but only when I get home13:16
louiginp13:17
autostaticSame here, I'm at work at the moment13:19
louigihttp://www.disc-shelf.com/droning/droning261.ogg13:30
louigiNo worries, but here it is13:30
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autostaticOk, cool :)13:48
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autostaticrncbc: My Qtractor load issues are resolved :)14:52
autostaticIt must have been some config issue somewhere14:53
autostaticBut i didn't feel like troubleshooting so I reinstalled the whole shabang14:53
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autostaticWhich was a good move, clean system again :)15:04
louigihehe15:07
louigilinux trash talk, man15:08
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rncbcautostatic: what? no backup?15:17
uriuktibackup?15:18
uriuktiwhy stopped working VST and linuxSampler15:19
falktxdoes the lv2 version work?15:19
uriuktii will look now15:20
uriuktiLv2 work good15:21
uriuktiand linuxVST work good15:24
uriuktibut winVST not work15:25
uriuktiand linuxSampler too15:25
falktxwhy do you need winvst of linuxsampler?15:25
uriukti I use some screws and a sampler for the gig15:27
uriuktisome winVST15:27
falktxif you're using ubuntu 15.04 or newer 32bit stuff doens't work right15:28
falktxwhich includes vsts in lmms, wineasio and a bunch of other stuff15:28
uriuktimy system Ubuntu studio 14.04 kernell 3.13.0-55 rep kxstudio15:28
falktxthen well, it was going to happen sooner or later15:29
uriukti and in my system it is possible to fix?15:31
falktxyou can try a clean wineprefix15:31
uriuktiok15:33
uriuktii will try15:33
uriukti If I use your system kx, these errors would not be?15:33
falktxwhat15:38
uriuktiIf I will use kxstudio - system, such errors will not be there?15:41
falktxI don't know..15:45
falktxmaybe, probably15:45
falktxwine is not perfect15:46
autostaticrncbc: I have backups15:46
autostaticAnd I'm really surprised that Qtractor runs so wel with Windows!15:47
rncbcautostatic: o.O?15:47
autostaticI'm being ironic :)15:47
uriukticarla very steep and necessary tool15:48
uriuktiThanks15:48
falktxqtractor on windows would mean jack-midi support. that would be awesome :P15:49
rncbcautostatic: whan you the patience please try recover the old Qtractor.conf and pin what was/is getting stuck back there15:50
Yruama_Lairbahello,i come here and i see "qtractor on windows" what is the story ?15:52
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rncbcYruama_Lairba: none, never! not in my watch at least :)15:52
Yruama_LairbaI Don't know for jack-midi, but there is a windows version of Jack15:54
rncbcYruama_Lairba: nevermind. qtractor is forged on alsa-midi, and theres no plans to make it jack-midi, not until qtractor v2 or later15:55
falktxwe first need 1.015:56
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Yruama_LairbaI tryed qtractor and found it cool because lightweighted, but i found it bad for using plugin instrument. the volume on midi track is a "midi volume controller" and I prefer an audio volume because none of the plugin respond in the same way to the midi volume message16:04
Yruama_LairbaI also encounter plugin that didn't respond at all to the midi volume message16:05
rncbcYruama_Lairba: yep that is like it is.16:05
rncbcYruama_Lairba: midi track volume slider is a formal CC#7 (GM Volume)16:07
rncbcYruama_Lairba: too bad those plugins doesn't get to it; it's not qtractor's fault16:08
rncbcYruama_Lairba: also midi track pan slider is hardwired to CC#1016:09
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rncbcYruama_Lairba: usual pratical workaround is about inserting a simple amp/gain plugin after the instrument plugin and then make it main parameter (gain, volume, w/e.) get direct access slider on the mixer strip.16:10
Yruama_Lairbai preferred to change to Ardour which is working like i want16:18
Yruama_Lairbaand i find it a little more intuitive and flexible for signal routing16:20
rncbcYruama_Lairba: i can't and won't argue an honest opinion :)16:23
NoteOnhi16:24
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NoteOnhows external sampler?16:30
NoteOnie linxu sampler qsysth16:30
NoteOntypo many sorry16:31
NoteOnI tihnk more midi control works fine16:32
NoteOnwhat my way is midi does all effect16:34
NoteOnlike complex volume control to make wave CC716:35
NoteOnno.. no. CC1 then CC7 is for midi mixer.16:35
NoteOnthen other special CC for external control16:35
Yruama_LairbaNoteOn: sorry I don't understand what you say ? maybe I need somme context ?16:36
NoteOnnot in deep linux ..16:36
NoteOnsorry my english as few ppls knows here .    im japanse16:36
NoteOnso what i mean is plug in sometimes can't control.16:36
NoteOnso sicne you like to control midi. then external sampler ..16:37
NoteOnand Jack patch16:37
NoteOnthen you can do more control by midi16:37
NoteOnI know ... but less all in one control.. not all in one project file.16:37
NoteOnI like to check linux sampler.. type16:38
NoteOnthen put sound to it.. then all midi control.16:38
NoteOnalso I don't like plugin's setup i/f.. sometime its GUI based and small.16:39
NoteOnie small view.. not keyboard operation16:39
NoteOnvolume CC7 as mixer. and CC1 for part volume then also CC11 set to EQ16:41
Yruama_LairbaNoteOn: what do you want do ? what host/plugin or software do you want to use ?16:41
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NoteOnthis is simple one and with good control. its good. this is was I used before in all in one sound module.. DTM world16:42
NoteOnwhat I try to do is, making todays good sound module... all sounds are there.16:43
NoteOnmidi control to all.16:43
NoteOnand good sequencer16:43
NoteOnrose is not for me now. its good but no event list.16:43
NoteOnnot rapid.16:43
NoteOnothers too16:43
NoteOnjp made sekaiju is one win via wine..16:44
NoteOnits good. but not good seq engien.16:44
NoteOnengige?16:44
NoteOnwhat I need is while playback.. track offset volume, tick slide and prg change works real time16:45
NoteOnthat I used cakewalk longtime.16:45
NoteOnso Im lookig for this type world in linux daw.16:45
NoteOncause with Jack, I can do many types..16:46
NoteOnin windows, limited...   ie select one big daw then using it... type16:47
Yruama_Lairbawith linux, you have Ardour and Qtractor as DAW16:47
NoteOnya its good as daw16:48
NoteOn5x better than windows and mac16:48
NoteOnnot only cost 016:48
Yruama_Lairbaboth support parameters automation16:49
NoteOnya16:49
NoteOnand many tools world? is only in linux..16:49
NoteOnseems me thats big diff then win and mac16:50
Yruama_LairbaArdour can be controlled with a external midi controller, if it is what you lookinf for (I don't know about Qtractor)16:51
NoteOni try to check that style16:51
NoteOnhow about linux sampler16:52
NoteOnI think not many talk about that16:52
NoteOnit's hard to setup.. seems kxstudio only support normal way.(easy way)16:52
NoteOnhuum it call DAW, not DTM.. so most user need wave control based then16:53
Yruama_Lairbalinux sampler is a a server. You need an interface to control it16:53
NoteOnya, I run it and seemd good. i keep check16:54
NoteOnif I can't find good seq.. I setup doxbox win32 dos and16:55
NoteOnuse old cakewalk16:55
NoteOnnot joke..16:55
Yruama_LairbaI don't know what is DTM16:56
NoteOnah ah ah16:56
NoteOnits Desktop Music16:56
NoteOnusing computer based making music it called.16:57
Yruama_Lairbacan you develop the acronym ? what is "T" ?16:57
NoteOn?16:58
NoteOnT?16:58
NoteOnDesk Top 's T16:58
NoteOnacronym wait.. .dictionally..16:59
NoteOn?17:00
NoteOnanyway I did all mid based and GS GM type module's data17:00
Yruama_LairbaI give you an example for "acronym" : DAW is the acronym of Digital Audio Workstation17:02
louigiautostatic: project M is great! Learning how to create my own preset. Oh boy17:02
NoteOnah thanks17:02
NoteOndesk top music DTM maybe this17:03
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NoteOnGS GM midi data is before.. then hardware sampler and external sound module midi control17:09
NoteOnnow its in pc. its dream for me;17:09
NoteOnha ha17:09
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dreamerhmm, I'm unable to install qtractor 2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1v519:48
dreamer2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1 does though (some dependency on librubberband)19:48
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autostaticrncbc: it was not in the qtractor.conf21:13
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autostaticI tried with a different user and with a moved qtractor.conf21:14
autostaticIt was something deeper21:15
autostaticBut I can still investigate, I have another install of Sheldon Cooper's favorite Linux operating system that has the same symptoms21:16
rncbcautostatic: only watched a few bbt episodes, don't know which favorite linux you're talking about :)21:31
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autostaticdreamer: I don't see a qtractor 2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1v521:34
dreamerhmm21:34
dreamerodd21:34
dreamerI have to mention I am on debian jessie21:35
dreamerand I seem to get: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-debian/ubuntus/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found21:35
rncbci wonder what the "v5" suffic stands for in that "2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1v5"--could it be a qtractor-qt5 build?21:39
rncbcsuffix*21:39
rncbcor is that gcc5 ?21:39
autostaticDon't know, seems like falktx uploaded a Xenial Xerus source package by accident21:40
autostaticOr on purpose and he deleted it afterwards21:41
autostaticdreamer: don't worry 2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1 is the latest21:42
dreamerautostatic: k. odd that it tried to install it then22:06
dreamerbtw, anyone know what to do with 'ERROR: cannot register object path "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0": A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0' when trying to start jack in cadence?22:07
NoteOnpulseaudio? maybe22:11
NoteOnyou need pulse-jack22:11
dreamerno pulse on my system kthnx22:15
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NoteOnso alsa?22:15
dreameryes22:15
NoteOnnot sure but that error is some driver already setuped. so you need bridge22:16
dreamerI've tried the different bridge types, no luck22:16
NoteOnnot sure kxstudio deep.. in ubuntsu that error comes it. then by bridge works fine22:18
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NoteOnCadence logs is somewhre .. sorry I don't know now.. that has more info22:21
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NoteOnor user issue.. jack by sudo22:27
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tek_yo guys23:08
tek_can i run this distro as a live usb?23:09
tek_or nah23:09
tek_everyones afk?!23:09
tek_really?23:10
* tek_ is sad af23:10
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tek_maybe you can answer my question olinuxx23:11
tek_can i run this distro as a live usb?23:11
distrozappertek: Be patient here :) You can run kxstudio as live USb and are invited to do so.23:11
tek_thank you sir :D23:11
tek_distrozapper: soorry not familiar with webchat23:13
distrozappertek_: No problem. Just be aware answers can take some 20min+23:14
tek_distrozapper : btw is it persistent, so saves the sessions into the usb drive?23:14
distrozappertek_: So if you post a question, please stay on channel a while.23:15
tek_that's a long time, I can cook a whole dinner for you guys in 20min+23:15
* tek_ starts cooking...23:15
distrozappertek_: Heh, OK, what are you cooking? ;=23:16
NoteOnyou can ran live cd but very limited23:17
NoteOnardr needs make project then test23:17
NoteOnso install or persistence mode (live but keep changes)23:17
tek_NoteOn: persistent mode is an option at boot, or some tricky linux magic?23:18
tek_distrozapper : traditional hungarian soup ;) http://imgur.com/AV7lJrQ23:19
LAbotTitle: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (at imgur.com)23:19
NoteOnyes. but since kx is based ubuntsu you can setup it.. info is same as ubunt23:19
tek_thank you23:20
NoteOnubuntu 14.0.4 persistence23:21
NoteOnwill get info23:21
NoteOnin fact, you need file ex2 casper-rw etc.. one file at root path.23:22
NoteOnthen edit boot file txt.cfg etc23:22
NoteOnit up to your boot loader.. that case syslinux23:22
NoteOnyou get more info by google.23:23
tek_got it, thanks NoteOn23:23
NoteOnand kxstudio did some easy way??? at initial script at boot, so sometimes you get user error..23:23
NoteOnthat why I noted to here..23:24
NoteOnbut most case ok. so23:24
NoteOnits good. usb persistece.23:24
NoteOnyou get more setup in one USB23:24
NoteOnjust change persistece file..23:24
NoteOnor if you need simple live... just run more boot option.23:25
NoteOnthats initial mdoe of kxstudio.. good for simple test23:25
NoteOnfat32 USB works fine.23:26
NoteOnand one file limitation is 4GB. in fat32.23:27
NoteOnso storage is upto 4GB. in fat32.23:27
NoteOnI use 8GB USB most case.23:27
NoteOnif more storage, other format with persistece or normal install.23:28
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tek_I try it a 4gb, just for testing23:30
NoteOnya thats good.23:30
NoteOnwhat i do is test and backup one file.. then test it23:31
NoteOnso i can back each level.23:31
distrozappertek_: hungarian soup...yumyum :)23:31
NoteOnand then copy to other same usb then just change usb to boot to diffrent? level same kx..23:31
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tek_distrozapper : hehe23:32
NoteOnsometimes sound chip level issue happens.23:32
NoteOnso portable usb is good for initial test and test and test;;23:32
tek_NoteOn : are using distro as well?23:33
NoteOn?23:33
NoteOnyes kx is ... not deep.23:33
NoteOnubuntu studio is main for daw midi23:33
NoteOnand then many discto I use.23:34
NoteOnfrom deian to puppy ... ... many23:34
NoteOnif you use windows, lili makes persistence semi auto23:35
tek_hehe23:35
tek_lili fucked up one of my 8gb usbs23:35
-NoteOn- LinuxLive USB Creator23:35
-NoteOn- http://www.linuxliveusb.com/23:35
NoteOnand in txt.cfg23:36
NoteOnremove file=/cdrom/preseed/live.seed23:36
NoteOnin append line23:36
NoteOnthats pre menu for live? or install part23:36
NoteOnand my way..is23:37
NoteOnrun it and change wall paper or theme then reboot to check persistence effect fine23:38
tek_yup23:38
NoteOnthat what I do23:38
distrozappertek_: Just curious: What OS are you using at the moment?23:39
tek_well, thank you guys23:39
tek_im on win right now23:39
tek_mostly win23:39
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NoteOnif usb is 4G. persistence is 1G or 2G is good. iso is 700mb 800nb?23:40
tek_1,5gb :D23:40
NoteOnsoon file is full but you can expand with tools23:40
NoteOnlater23:40
tek_ikr23:40
NoteOnand vs normal install..  not pros cons.23:41
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distrozappertek_: OK, so take care to select an appropiate tool to create a live USb stick.23:41
tek_its finished already23:41
distrozapperOK23:42
tek_ill be back soon ;)23:42
distrozapperCU23:42
tek_oh, almost forgot23:42
* tek_ finished cooking...23:42
distrozapperhehe23:42
tek_enjoy your meals guys23:43
tek_take care23:43
distrozapperyou too23:43
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tek_hehe23:49
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