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rghvdberg | hi, calf reverb is crashing ardour :-( | 08:16 |
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rghvdberg | oh .. also roomy is crashing ardour :-/ | 08:23 |
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rghvdberg | hi falktx | 08:24 |
rghvdberg | ardour is suddenly crashing | 08:24 |
rghvdberg | 1st I thought Calf Reverb was acting up, but also roomy crashed ardour | 08:25 |
rghvdberg | checking recent updates ... hold on | 08:26 |
rghvdberg | linux-firmware and linux-libc-dev were updated, but not the kernel and headers | 08:27 |
rghvdberg | updating now, maybe it'll help | 08:27 |
rghvdberg | system seems slow and laggy anyway .. | 08:28 |
rghvdberg | rebooting brb | 08:28 |
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rghvdberg | oh ... input gain and output gain was at +36 db ... | 08:32 |
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louigi | Does anyone know if Linux has any sort of an app that can make abstract animations - you know, like in screensavers, when various shapes float and modulate, etc | 10:47 |
autostatic | louigi: ProjectM maybe? http://projectm.sourceforge.net/ Or are you lokking for someting else? | 11:09 |
LAbot | Title: projectM (at projectm.sourceforge.net) | 11:09 |
falktx | I have a plugin for that actually, called ProM | 11:09 |
falktx | https://github.com/DISTRHO/ProM | 11:09 |
falktx | part of the dpf-plugins package | 11:10 |
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louigi | autostatic: hm, I don;t know, the link does not open for me | 11:25 |
louigi | oh, now it opened | 11:25 |
louigi | Could be what I want, yes! | 11:25 |
autostatic | :) | 11:26 |
falktx | https://i.imgur.com/EkKBK2Z.png | 11:26 |
autostatic | Make sure you use falktx' version | 11:26 |
falktx | meh, my version just makes it useful as a plugin | 11:27 |
falktx | the standalone does the same thing | 11:27 |
louigi | I see the projectm-jack thing. Is this it falktx ? | 11:28 |
falktx | nope, that's the standalone | 11:28 |
falktx | for the plugin version install dpf-plugins | 11:28 |
autostatic | Soul Force, wasn't that some guitar fx? | 11:28 |
falktx | the plugin is called "ProM" | 11:28 |
falktx | yeah | 11:28 |
louigi | ah, those I already have installed | 11:29 |
falktx | autostatic: http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/soulforce.htm | 11:29 |
LAbot | Title: ndc plugs - Soul Force! (at www.niallmoody.com) | 11:29 |
louigi | Yesterday I used XaoS to create some abstract graphics | 11:29 |
falktx | I started porting those to linux https://github.com/DISTRHO/ndc-Plugs | 11:29 |
autostatic | Nice! | 11:30 |
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louigi | I wonder what is the best tool to make a video clip on Linux. I mean with the video editing difficulties.... I am once again thinking of trying out Cinelerra | 12:38 |
louigi | OpenShot 2.0 perhaps is never coming out | 12:38 |
louigi | And when it is - chances are it will be buggy as hell | 12:38 |
louigi | It always looks better on dev's computer, but when you install it on your own, disappointment is emminent ))) | 12:39 |
louigi | Here is the September update on it: http://www.openshotvideo.com/ | 12:39 |
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louigi | autostatic: do you know if you can customize things in projectm? | 12:41 |
autostatic | Tbh, I've never tried ProjectM :( | 12:42 |
louigi | I am looking at it now | 12:42 |
louigi | Very beautiful, but I would like to be able to control it more as it just switched from scene to another scene really fast | 12:42 |
autostatic | How about KDEnlive for video editing? Or Pitivi? | 12:42 |
louigi | autostatic: yeah, last time I tried both of them I had problems. I will try again :( | 12:43 |
falktx | it has some key input | 12:44 |
louigi | Listening to my old work - Houseman. Not a bad bunch of tracks. Always nice to look back at one's work and find out it is not absolute crap | 12:45 |
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louigi | I wonder how do you create those presets | 13:02 |
louigi | I mean for projectM | 13:04 |
louigi | Someone is writing this | 13:04 |
falktx | they are milkdrop files | 13:06 |
louigi | yet another thing for me to research! | 13:09 |
louigi | Guys, can anyone have a test listen of a droning piece? | 13:09 |
falktx | I can, but only when I get home | 13:16 |
louigi | np | 13:17 |
autostatic | Same here, I'm at work at the moment | 13:19 |
louigi | http://www.disc-shelf.com/droning/droning261.ogg | 13:30 |
louigi | No worries, but here it is | 13:30 |
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autostatic | Ok, cool :) | 13:48 |
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autostatic | rncbc: My Qtractor load issues are resolved :) | 14:52 |
autostatic | It must have been some config issue somewhere | 14:53 |
autostatic | But i didn't feel like troubleshooting so I reinstalled the whole shabang | 14:53 |
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autostatic | Which was a good move, clean system again :) | 15:04 |
louigi | hehe | 15:07 |
louigi | linux trash talk, man | 15:08 |
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rncbc | autostatic: what? no backup? | 15:17 |
uriukti | backup? | 15:18 |
uriukti | why stopped working VST and linuxSampler | 15:19 |
falktx | does the lv2 version work? | 15:19 |
uriukti | i will look now | 15:20 |
uriukti | Lv2 work good | 15:21 |
uriukti | and linuxVST work good | 15:24 |
uriukti | but winVST not work | 15:25 |
uriukti | and linuxSampler too | 15:25 |
falktx | why do you need winvst of linuxsampler? | 15:25 |
uriukti | I use some screws and a sampler for the gig | 15:27 |
uriukti | some winVST | 15:27 |
falktx | if you're using ubuntu 15.04 or newer 32bit stuff doens't work right | 15:28 |
falktx | which includes vsts in lmms, wineasio and a bunch of other stuff | 15:28 |
uriukti | my system Ubuntu studio 14.04 kernell 3.13.0-55 rep kxstudio | 15:28 |
falktx | then well, it was going to happen sooner or later | 15:29 |
uriukti | and in my system it is possible to fix? | 15:31 |
falktx | you can try a clean wineprefix | 15:31 |
uriukti | ok | 15:33 |
uriukti | i will try | 15:33 |
uriukti | If I use your system kx, these errors would not be? | 15:33 |
falktx | what | 15:38 |
uriukti | If I will use kxstudio - system, such errors will not be there? | 15:41 |
falktx | I don't know.. | 15:45 |
falktx | maybe, probably | 15:45 |
falktx | wine is not perfect | 15:46 |
autostatic | rncbc: I have backups | 15:46 |
autostatic | And I'm really surprised that Qtractor runs so wel with Windows! | 15:47 |
rncbc | autostatic: o.O? | 15:47 |
autostatic | I'm being ironic :) | 15:47 |
uriukti | carla very steep and necessary tool | 15:48 |
uriukti | Thanks | 15:48 |
falktx | qtractor on windows would mean jack-midi support. that would be awesome :P | 15:49 |
rncbc | autostatic: whan you the patience please try recover the old Qtractor.conf and pin what was/is getting stuck back there | 15:50 |
Yruama_Lairba | hello,i come here and i see "qtractor on windows" what is the story ? | 15:52 |
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rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: none, never! not in my watch at least :) | 15:52 |
Yruama_Lairba | I Don't know for jack-midi, but there is a windows version of Jack | 15:54 |
rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: nevermind. qtractor is forged on alsa-midi, and theres no plans to make it jack-midi, not until qtractor v2 or later | 15:55 |
falktx | we first need 1.0 | 15:56 |
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Yruama_Lairba | I tryed qtractor and found it cool because lightweighted, but i found it bad for using plugin instrument. the volume on midi track is a "midi volume controller" and I prefer an audio volume because none of the plugin respond in the same way to the midi volume message | 16:04 |
Yruama_Lairba | I also encounter plugin that didn't respond at all to the midi volume message | 16:05 |
rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: yep that is like it is. | 16:05 |
rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: midi track volume slider is a formal CC#7 (GM Volume) | 16:07 |
rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: too bad those plugins doesn't get to it; it's not qtractor's fault | 16:08 |
rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: also midi track pan slider is hardwired to CC#10 | 16:09 |
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rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: usual pratical workaround is about inserting a simple amp/gain plugin after the instrument plugin and then make it main parameter (gain, volume, w/e.) get direct access slider on the mixer strip. | 16:10 |
Yruama_Lairba | i preferred to change to Ardour which is working like i want | 16:18 |
Yruama_Lairba | and i find it a little more intuitive and flexible for signal routing | 16:20 |
rncbc | Yruama_Lairba: i can't and won't argue an honest opinion :) | 16:23 |
NoteOn | hi | 16:24 |
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NoteOn | hows external sampler? | 16:30 |
NoteOn | ie linxu sampler qsysth | 16:30 |
NoteOn | typo many sorry | 16:31 |
NoteOn | I tihnk more midi control works fine | 16:32 |
NoteOn | what my way is midi does all effect | 16:34 |
NoteOn | like complex volume control to make wave CC7 | 16:35 |
NoteOn | no.. no. CC1 then CC7 is for midi mixer. | 16:35 |
NoteOn | then other special CC for external control | 16:35 |
Yruama_Lairba | NoteOn: sorry I don't understand what you say ? maybe I need somme context ? | 16:36 |
NoteOn | not in deep linux .. | 16:36 |
NoteOn | sorry my english as few ppls knows here . im japanse | 16:36 |
NoteOn | so what i mean is plug in sometimes can't control. | 16:36 |
NoteOn | so sicne you like to control midi. then external sampler .. | 16:37 |
NoteOn | and Jack patch | 16:37 |
NoteOn | then you can do more control by midi | 16:37 |
NoteOn | I know ... but less all in one control.. not all in one project file. | 16:37 |
NoteOn | I like to check linux sampler.. type | 16:38 |
NoteOn | then put sound to it.. then all midi control. | 16:38 |
NoteOn | also I don't like plugin's setup i/f.. sometime its GUI based and small. | 16:39 |
NoteOn | ie small view.. not keyboard operation | 16:39 |
NoteOn | volume CC7 as mixer. and CC1 for part volume then also CC11 set to EQ | 16:41 |
Yruama_Lairba | NoteOn: what do you want do ? what host/plugin or software do you want to use ? | 16:41 |
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NoteOn | this is simple one and with good control. its good. this is was I used before in all in one sound module.. DTM world | 16:42 |
NoteOn | what I try to do is, making todays good sound module... all sounds are there. | 16:43 |
NoteOn | midi control to all. | 16:43 |
NoteOn | and good sequencer | 16:43 |
NoteOn | rose is not for me now. its good but no event list. | 16:43 |
NoteOn | not rapid. | 16:43 |
NoteOn | others too | 16:43 |
NoteOn | jp made sekaiju is one win via wine.. | 16:44 |
NoteOn | its good. but not good seq engien. | 16:44 |
NoteOn | engige? | 16:44 |
NoteOn | what I need is while playback.. track offset volume, tick slide and prg change works real time | 16:45 |
NoteOn | that I used cakewalk longtime. | 16:45 |
NoteOn | so Im lookig for this type world in linux daw. | 16:45 |
NoteOn | cause with Jack, I can do many types.. | 16:46 |
NoteOn | in windows, limited... ie select one big daw then using it... type | 16:47 |
Yruama_Lairba | with linux, you have Ardour and Qtractor as DAW | 16:47 |
NoteOn | ya its good as daw | 16:48 |
NoteOn | 5x better than windows and mac | 16:48 |
NoteOn | not only cost 0 | 16:48 |
Yruama_Lairba | both support parameters automation | 16:49 |
NoteOn | ya | 16:49 |
NoteOn | and many tools world? is only in linux.. | 16:49 |
NoteOn | seems me thats big diff then win and mac | 16:50 |
Yruama_Lairba | Ardour can be controlled with a external midi controller, if it is what you lookinf for (I don't know about Qtractor) | 16:51 |
NoteOn | i try to check that style | 16:51 |
NoteOn | how about linux sampler | 16:52 |
NoteOn | I think not many talk about that | 16:52 |
NoteOn | it's hard to setup.. seems kxstudio only support normal way.(easy way) | 16:52 |
NoteOn | huum it call DAW, not DTM.. so most user need wave control based then | 16:53 |
Yruama_Lairba | linux sampler is a a server. You need an interface to control it | 16:53 |
NoteOn | ya, I run it and seemd good. i keep check | 16:54 |
NoteOn | if I can't find good seq.. I setup doxbox win32 dos and | 16:55 |
NoteOn | use old cakewalk | 16:55 |
NoteOn | not joke.. | 16:55 |
Yruama_Lairba | I don't know what is DTM | 16:56 |
NoteOn | ah ah ah | 16:56 |
NoteOn | its Desktop Music | 16:56 |
NoteOn | using computer based making music it called. | 16:57 |
Yruama_Lairba | can you develop the acronym ? what is "T" ? | 16:57 |
NoteOn | ? | 16:58 |
NoteOn | T? | 16:58 |
NoteOn | Desk Top 's T | 16:58 |
NoteOn | acronym wait.. .dictionally.. | 16:59 |
NoteOn | ? | 17:00 |
NoteOn | anyway I did all mid based and GS GM type module's data | 17:00 |
Yruama_Lairba | I give you an example for "acronym" : DAW is the acronym of Digital Audio Workstation | 17:02 |
louigi | autostatic: project M is great! Learning how to create my own preset. Oh boy | 17:02 |
NoteOn | ah thanks | 17:02 |
NoteOn | desk top music DTM maybe this | 17:03 |
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NoteOn | GS GM midi data is before.. then hardware sampler and external sound module midi control | 17:09 |
NoteOn | now its in pc. its dream for me; | 17:09 |
NoteOn | ha ha | 17:09 |
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dreamer | hmm, I'm unable to install qtractor 2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1v5 | 19:48 |
dreamer | 2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1 does though (some dependency on librubberband) | 19:48 |
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autostatic | rncbc: it was not in the qtractor.conf | 21:13 |
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autostatic | I tried with a different user and with a moved qtractor.conf | 21:14 |
autostatic | It was something deeper | 21:15 |
autostatic | But I can still investigate, I have another install of Sheldon Cooper's favorite Linux operating system that has the same symptoms | 21:16 |
rncbc | autostatic: only watched a few bbt episodes, don't know which favorite linux you're talking about :) | 21:31 |
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autostatic | dreamer: I don't see a qtractor 2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1v5 | 21:34 |
dreamer | hmm | 21:34 |
dreamer | odd | 21:34 |
dreamer | I have to mention I am on debian jessie | 21:35 |
dreamer | and I seem to get: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-debian/ubuntus/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found | 21:35 |
rncbc | i wonder what the "v5" suffic stands for in that "2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1v5"--could it be a qtractor-qt5 build? | 21:39 |
rncbc | suffix* | 21:39 |
rncbc | or is that gcc5 ? | 21:39 |
autostatic | Don't know, seems like falktx uploaded a Xenial Xerus source package by accident | 21:40 |
autostatic | Or on purpose and he deleted it afterwards | 21:41 |
autostatic | dreamer: don't worry 2:0.7.1-1kxstudio1 is the latest | 21:42 |
dreamer | autostatic: k. odd that it tried to install it then | 22:06 |
dreamer | btw, anyone know what to do with 'ERROR: cannot register object path "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0": A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0' when trying to start jack in cadence? | 22:07 |
NoteOn | pulseaudio? maybe | 22:11 |
NoteOn | you need pulse-jack | 22:11 |
dreamer | no pulse on my system kthnx | 22:15 |
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NoteOn | so alsa? | 22:15 |
dreamer | yes | 22:15 |
NoteOn | not sure but that error is some driver already setuped. so you need bridge | 22:16 |
dreamer | I've tried the different bridge types, no luck | 22:16 |
NoteOn | not sure kxstudio deep.. in ubuntsu that error comes it. then by bridge works fine | 22:18 |
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NoteOn | Cadence logs is somewhre .. sorry I don't know now.. that has more info | 22:21 |
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NoteOn | or user issue.. jack by sudo | 22:27 |
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tek_ | yo guys | 23:08 |
tek_ | can i run this distro as a live usb? | 23:09 |
tek_ | or nah | 23:09 |
tek_ | everyones afk?! | 23:09 |
tek_ | really? | 23:10 |
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tek_ | maybe you can answer my question olinuxx | 23:11 |
tek_ | can i run this distro as a live usb? | 23:11 |
distrozapper | tek: Be patient here :) You can run kxstudio as live USb and are invited to do so. | 23:11 |
tek_ | thank you sir :D | 23:11 |
tek_ | distrozapper: soorry not familiar with webchat | 23:13 |
distrozapper | tek_: No problem. Just be aware answers can take some 20min+ | 23:14 |
tek_ | distrozapper : btw is it persistent, so saves the sessions into the usb drive? | 23:14 |
distrozapper | tek_: So if you post a question, please stay on channel a while. | 23:15 |
tek_ | that's a long time, I can cook a whole dinner for you guys in 20min+ | 23:15 |
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distrozapper | tek_: Heh, OK, what are you cooking? ;= | 23:16 |
NoteOn | you can ran live cd but very limited | 23:17 |
NoteOn | ardr needs make project then test | 23:17 |
NoteOn | so install or persistence mode (live but keep changes) | 23:17 |
tek_ | NoteOn: persistent mode is an option at boot, or some tricky linux magic? | 23:18 |
tek_ | distrozapper : traditional hungarian soup ;) http://imgur.com/AV7lJrQ | 23:19 |
LAbot | Title: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (at imgur.com) | 23:19 |
NoteOn | yes. but since kx is based ubuntsu you can setup it.. info is same as ubunt | 23:19 |
tek_ | thank you | 23:20 |
NoteOn | ubuntu 14.0.4 persistence | 23:21 |
NoteOn | will get info | 23:21 |
NoteOn | in fact, you need file ex2 casper-rw etc.. one file at root path. | 23:22 |
NoteOn | then edit boot file txt.cfg etc | 23:22 |
NoteOn | it up to your boot loader.. that case syslinux | 23:22 |
NoteOn | you get more info by google. | 23:23 |
tek_ | got it, thanks NoteOn | 23:23 |
NoteOn | and kxstudio did some easy way??? at initial script at boot, so sometimes you get user error.. | 23:23 |
NoteOn | that why I noted to here.. | 23:24 |
NoteOn | but most case ok. so | 23:24 |
NoteOn | its good. usb persistece. | 23:24 |
NoteOn | you get more setup in one USB | 23:24 |
NoteOn | just change persistece file.. | 23:24 |
NoteOn | or if you need simple live... just run more boot option. | 23:25 |
NoteOn | thats initial mdoe of kxstudio.. good for simple test | 23:25 |
NoteOn | fat32 USB works fine. | 23:26 |
NoteOn | and one file limitation is 4GB. in fat32. | 23:27 |
NoteOn | so storage is upto 4GB. in fat32. | 23:27 |
NoteOn | I use 8GB USB most case. | 23:27 |
NoteOn | if more storage, other format with persistece or normal install. | 23:28 |
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tek_ | I try it a 4gb, just for testing | 23:30 |
NoteOn | ya thats good. | 23:30 |
NoteOn | what i do is test and backup one file.. then test it | 23:31 |
NoteOn | so i can back each level. | 23:31 |
distrozapper | tek_: hungarian soup...yumyum :) | 23:31 |
NoteOn | and then copy to other same usb then just change usb to boot to diffrent? level same kx.. | 23:31 |
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tek_ | distrozapper : hehe | 23:32 |
NoteOn | sometimes sound chip level issue happens. | 23:32 |
NoteOn | so portable usb is good for initial test and test and test;; | 23:32 |
tek_ | NoteOn : are using distro as well? | 23:33 |
NoteOn | ? | 23:33 |
NoteOn | yes kx is ... not deep. | 23:33 |
NoteOn | ubuntu studio is main for daw midi | 23:33 |
NoteOn | and then many discto I use. | 23:34 |
NoteOn | from deian to puppy ... ... many | 23:34 |
NoteOn | if you use windows, lili makes persistence semi auto | 23:35 |
tek_ | hehe | 23:35 |
tek_ | lili fucked up one of my 8gb usbs | 23:35 |
-NoteOn- LinuxLive USB Creator | 23:35 | |
-NoteOn- http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ | 23:35 | |
NoteOn | and in txt.cfg | 23:36 |
NoteOn | remove file=/cdrom/preseed/live.seed | 23:36 |
NoteOn | in append line | 23:36 |
NoteOn | thats pre menu for live? or install part | 23:36 |
NoteOn | and my way..is | 23:37 |
NoteOn | run it and change wall paper or theme then reboot to check persistence effect fine | 23:38 |
tek_ | yup | 23:38 |
NoteOn | that what I do | 23:38 |
distrozapper | tek_: Just curious: What OS are you using at the moment? | 23:39 |
tek_ | well, thank you guys | 23:39 |
tek_ | im on win right now | 23:39 |
tek_ | mostly win | 23:39 |
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NoteOn | if usb is 4G. persistence is 1G or 2G is good. iso is 700mb 800nb? | 23:40 |
tek_ | 1,5gb :D | 23:40 |
NoteOn | soon file is full but you can expand with tools | 23:40 |
NoteOn | later | 23:40 |
tek_ | ikr | 23:40 |
NoteOn | and vs normal install.. not pros cons. | 23:41 |
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distrozapper | tek_: OK, so take care to select an appropiate tool to create a live USb stick. | 23:41 |
tek_ | its finished already | 23:41 |
distrozapper | OK | 23:42 |
tek_ | ill be back soon ;) | 23:42 |
distrozapper | CU | 23:42 |
tek_ | oh, almost forgot | 23:42 |
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distrozapper | hehe | 23:42 |
tek_ | enjoy your meals guys | 23:43 |
tek_ | take care | 23:43 |
distrozapper | you too | 23:43 |
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tek_ | hehe | 23:49 |
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