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| JackWinter_ | falktx: i saw your comment on the wineasio package. just tried starting an old 32bit reaper install on my 64b system, and it works just fine... | 10:04 |
| JackWinter_ | think at the moment i have wine-staging installed though, not that i think that makes a difference. also jack1 + lib32-jack1 | 10:05 |
| falktx | JackWinter_: hmm maybe jack1 is fine | 10:05 |
| falktx | JackWinter_: can you try jack2 please? | 10:05 |
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| JackWinter_ | i guess i can | 10:18 |
| JackWinter_ | well seems like 32b wineasio loads and connects to the server, but transport won't roll so i guess it doesn't do the callbacks it ought to | 10:20 |
| JackWinter_ | a pity that jack2 isn't well maintained... | 10:21 |
| falktx | JackWinter_: under jack2 you should only get xruns, no process will be called | 10:30 |
| JackWinter_ | well i got no audio at all... | 10:35 |
| JackWinter_ | i theorize that the asio callback never gets executed | 10:35 |
| falktx | no process callback is ever called | 10:36 |
| falktx | I tried with a minimal client code | 10:36 |
| JackWinter_ | fits the behaviour i noticed. iirc it's not the first time that mixed mode jack2 is broken, but it's interesting that jack1 works.. | 10:37 |
| JackWinter_ | would seem to indicate that the problem is in the jack2 code? | 10:38 |
| falktx | problem is not jack2 | 10:38 |
| falktx | all 32bit semaphores on 64bit systems are broken | 10:39 |
| falktx | I had the same issue with carla bridges. both wine and native | 10:39 |
| JackWinter_ | why does jack1 work then? not using semaphores (can't remember was so long ago that i looked at it) | 10:40 |
| falktx | it must be using something else | 10:40 |
| falktx | I know sem_timedwait is broken | 10:40 |
| JackWinter_ | what gcc version do you use? maybe mismatch between what was used to build glibc with? gcc problems is something i run into regularly on archlinux as they like to jump to new gcc releases quickly :S | 10:41 |
| falktx | JackWinter_: I changed carla's code to atomics and kernel futex, which works now | 10:42 |
| falktx | I tried different compiler versions | 10:42 |
| JackWinter_ | futexes ought to be faster too ;) | 10:42 |
| falktx | the same binary that works on ubuntu 14.04 doesn't work on 15.04 | 10:42 |
| JackWinter_ | shit like this is annoying. maybe ask the wine people? surely they'd be the biggest group of users of 32b code on 64b systems | 10:43 |
| JackWinter_ | falktx: have you tried using -O0? that helps sometimes | 11:10 |
| falktx | JackWinter_: yes, with -g -DDEBUG and all that stuff | 11:16 |
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| dreamer | hi all. where can I find the checksums of the iso releases? | 15:13 |
| dreamer | hah, just saw the linuxmusicians linux: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?p=57528&sid=fb3ef0d15bff6e39279c42c6cfed8bca#p57528 | 15:13 |
| LAbot | Title: LinuxMusicians View topic - Call for Testing: KXStudio 14.04.1 ISOs (at www.linuxmusicians.com) | 15:13 |
| dreamer | can these be on the site or github somewhere? they are impossible to find | 15:14 |
| dreamer | btw, what is the best way to put the live-iso on a usb stick? I tried unetbootin with a fat32 partition but it doesn't boot | 15:16 |
| holstein | dreamer: "it", being, the iso that i create with unetbootin, boots for me here | 15:17 |
| holstein | you can elaborate about what is failing, and how.. or, just try dd copying, *carefully*, the iso's to a USB stick | 15:17 |
| holstein | also, i suggest, try booting on a machine that you *know* boots USB sticks.. | 15:18 |
| holstein | dreamer: i say, try the iso's, then, if you have an issue, you can look for the md5 sums | 15:18 |
| holstein | that is, and shouldnt be considered a "security" step, but, rather, just an integrity check, for the download process | 15:18 |
| dreamer | yeah I checked the integrity. my download is ok | 15:19 |
| dreamer | tried unetbootin on this stick (new 8gb sandisk) twice. the computer (a c2d that definitely boots from usb) doesn't boot from it | 15:19 |
| holstein | sure | 15:20 |
| holstein | what do i do? i fresh format my USB sticks, each, and every time | 15:20 |
| dreamer | yeah. that's what I did. you use fat32? | 15:20 |
| holstein | if i have an issue, i try the dd copy method.. how does the dd copy method work for you? | 15:20 |
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| holstein | fat32 is what i choose, correct | 15:20 |
| holstein | one can also, easily, use *any* ubuntu installer, and convert it to kxstudio | 15:21 |
| holstein | .g ubuntu mini iso | 15:21 |
| thelonius | holstein: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 15:21 |
| dreamer | haven't tried dd-ing the iso yet. that typically doesn't work in my experience. something with how syslinux tries to boot or something | 15:21 |
| LAbot | Title: Installation/MinimalCD - Community Help Wiki (at help.ubuntu.com) | 15:21 |
| holstein | for example | 15:21 |
| holstein | dreamer: sure.. you have a lot of variables to work out there.. and, that issue, if its with "syslinux", or whatever, would likely be an issue with the hardware, that will be present booting via unetbootin | 15:21 |
| holstein | anyways, i wouldnt overthink it. i would take the stick to another machine, and see if it boots there.. try making anothher iso, such as the quite small ones i linked, and see if they boot on that hardware | 15:22 |
| holstein | try other sticks.. "new" doesnt mean "un-broken" | 15:22 |
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| dreamer | meh | 15:23 |
| holstein | meh? | 15:23 |
| holstein | anyways.. im here if you would like to share any more details.. id be glad to help you isolate and troubleshoot.. | 15:23 |
| dreamer | haha, yeah all our computers are the same type | 15:24 |
| dreamer | and they boot from usb for sure | 15:24 |
| dreamer | thnx | 15:24 |
| dreamer | basically "try more stuff" | 15:24 |
| dreamer | but you say unetbootin works for you for sure | 15:24 |
| holstein | sure.. and *does* *that* USB stick boot in *any* of them? | 15:24 |
| dreamer | I'm trying the 32bit iso btw | 15:24 |
| holstein | dreamer: without error messages, yes. i suggest, just keep moving | 15:24 |
| holstein | i assure you, nothing about teh kxstudio iso is preventing the boot.. im not sure what you will have to do on your unmentioned hardware to boot the iso | 15:24 |
| holstein | what do i suggest? the following.. try *that* USB stick on other machines (even if they are the same, since, chipsets can vary within the same model #'s), try another iso, such as the small download i linked above (wont take long to download, and make a USB stick, and you can convert that installation to kxstudio if you prefer, at that point) ..try other sticks and/or the dd copy method *carefully* (understanding why dd is referred to as "disk | 15:26 |
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| dreamer | hmm, just installed a vbox with the 32bit image. except after installation I just get the background screen + cursor. nothing else | 18:12 |
| dreamer | holstein: the dd worked btw | 18:16 |
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