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| falktx | he actually made it | 15:45 |
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| spectromas | is there something I need to do to make windows vsts work in carla? I have wine installed and carla sees them but can't load them | 15:51 |
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| falktx | you need to install the bridges | 15:57 |
| falktx | spectromas: the short thing to try is something like this: | 15:57 |
| falktx | carla-single win32 vst /path/to/dll | 15:57 |
| falktx | spectromas: that^ needs to work first | 15:57 |
| spectromas | I thought that would be the case falktx, I saw a bug report with mention of updating carla and bridges...where are there bridges though? I don't see it in your github | 15:58 |
| falktx | spectromas: aren't you using the repos? just install them | 15:58 |
| falktx | the bridges are part of the carla code, but they need to be built separately | 15:59 |
| spectromas | falktx: no, I build it from sources, no kx repos for my distro | 15:59 |
| falktx | which is? | 15:59 |
| spectromas | funtoo | 16:00 |
| falktx | o.O | 16:00 |
| falktx | are you reen1 in costume? | 16:00 |
| spectromas | haha | 16:01 |
| spectromas | I wish, that guy was a legend | 16:01 |
| falktx | well, anyway, you'll need mingw | 16:02 |
| falktx | spectromas: does "make wine32" in the carla source builds for you? | 16:03 |
| spectromas | falktx: it looks like it works, yes. Is that all I need to do? | 16:04 |
| falktx | no, next you need some mingw stuff | 16:04 |
| falktx | do you have mingw installed already? | 16:04 |
| spectromas | no, I don't. I see mingw-runtime and mingw64-runtime, I would want the win32 for a 32 bit wine prefix? | 16:05 |
| falktx | yeah, but you need more than just the runtime | 16:11 |
| falktx | you need the compiler, something like mingw-gcc | 16:11 |
| spectromas | there's something wrong with those two packages anyway. Nevermind, I'll just download the carla binary and grab the bride from that, think I did that before | 16:15 |
| falktx | the binary is old now | 16:15 |
| falktx | need to make a new release... | 16:16 |
| spectromas | haha ok don't worry. I actually use airwave but I just noticed they don't work in carla and wanted to test something | 16:17 |
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| bluefacered | hi | 19:46 |
| bluefacered | what the latest iso | 19:46 |
| bluefacered | im not sure if te one i downloaded was correct | 19:47 |
| bluefacered | it may have been a beta | 19:47 |
| holstein | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Downloads would be my reference | 19:47 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Downloads (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 19:47 |
| bluefacered | but i downloaded14.02 | 19:48 |
| bluefacered | seems like its not official | 19:48 |
| bluefacered | let e show you | 19:48 |
| holstein | bluefacered: there are md5 sums there, for the iso's | 19:50 |
| bluefacered | i did check them | 19:50 |
| bluefacered | why no official 14.04.02 | 19:51 |
| holstein | you can upgrade.. | 19:52 |
| holstein | probably just didnt make one, based on the new ubuntu base.. the upgraded base OS | 19:52 |
| bluefacered | oh | 19:52 |
| bluefacered | so i can download 14.04 | 19:52 |
| holstein | you can download ubuntu 14.04.whatever and add the sources, or install and upgrade.. etc | 19:52 |
| bluefacered | and upgrade | 19:52 |
| bluefacered | well no its not that easy for plain old ubuntu | 19:53 |
| bluefacered | unless you mean from kx studio | 19:53 |
| bluefacered | from ubuntu itself just lie from mint things never work right | 19:53 |
| holstein | ubuntu has official sources | 19:54 |
| holstein | mint has their own sources they add to ubuntu.. | 19:54 |
| holstein | from inside ubuntu, you have ubuntu 14.04 installed. you upgrade, you get 14.04.2.. so on | 19:54 |
| holstein | if you are on an ubuntu based OS, such as kxstudio, you update, you get the updated version | 19:54 |
| holstein | though, there are new iso's released for ubuntu.. the folks that base ontop of ubuntu may not.. such as mint, kxstudio ..etc | 19:55 |
| bluefacered | so thiers no benefit to burning a iso with an exact version | 19:55 |
| holstein | time.. | 19:56 |
| bluefacered | vs upgrading from old version to new | 19:56 |
| holstein | you wont have to upgrade as much.. and save time and bandwidth | 19:56 |
| holstein | the end rusult is the same.. | 19:56 |
| bluefacered | oh | 19:56 |
| holstein | 14.04 *is* 14.04. its not a newer version of anything | 19:56 |
| holstein | there are newer packages, such as, a kernel rev, and backports.. etc.. | 19:56 |
| bluefacered | what version of kx you running | 19:56 |
| holstein | 14.04 just becomes 14.04.2.. or whatever | 19:56 |
| bluefacered | ah | 19:57 |
| bluefacered | i noticed that whne i downloaded 14.04.02 there were no security updates | 19:58 |
| bluefacered | and no way to update | 19:58 |
| bluefacered | vs old 14.04 which im dl | 19:59 |
| bluefacered | thought that was really weird | 19:59 |
| bluefacered | seems that .02 update because of soureforge being down is not completed | 19:59 |
| holstein | if you get the *most* current 14.04 iso, created, there may not be any updates available | 20:00 |
| holstein | but, i think you are assuming its a new download | 20:00 |
| holstein | its not.. its the same 14.04 repos, etc.. | 20:00 |
| bluefacered | http://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13145&start=60 | 20:03 |
| LAbot | Title: LinuxMusicians View topic - Call for Testing: KXStudio 14.04.1 ISOs (at linuxmusicians.com) | 20:03 |
| holstein | right.. | 20:03 |
| holstein | bluefacered: think of it like this.. its a newer base installer, with newer packages | 20:04 |
| holstein | bluefacered: its not a new OS.. | 20:04 |
| bluefacered | ok | 20:04 |
| holstein | bluefacered: you install *any* 14.04, and upgrade, and you get the latest | 20:04 |
| bluefacered | well thne i should ask | 20:04 |
| bluefacered | i understand | 20:05 |
| bluefacered | what version of kx studio did you burn | 20:06 |
| holstein | bluefacered: i dont have the latest | 20:06 |
| holstein | bluefacered: i installed from 14.04, and add the sources, and pick and choose what i want | 20:06 |
| holstein | bluefacered: i factually know, from volunteering with ubuntu, that that is the way it works | 20:06 |
| bluefacered | is it hard to do | 20:06 |
| holstein | bluefacered: you dont need to add a more recent install from a newer iso, though, you can | 20:06 |
| bluefacered | or is it automtic | 20:07 |
| holstein | bluefacered: whats "hard to do" ? | 20:07 |
| bluefacered | the update | 20:07 |
| holstein | bluefacered: literally, in the terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 20:07 |
| holstein | bluefacered: or, any package manager you choose | 20:07 |
| bluefacered | aww | 20:07 |
| bluefacered | ok | 20:07 |
| holstein | its not a different operatingt system, or version of linux, or ubuntu | 20:07 |
| holstein | its newer packages, thats all.. from the same source | 20:07 |
| bluefacered | i was under the impression that upgrading from an older os can be problematic | 20:08 |
| bluefacered | thats why i was so confused | 20:08 |
| holstein | 14.04 was release over a year ago.. so, most packages have been rev'd.. its time saving to have the newer ISO | 20:08 |
| holstein | bluefacered: its not a problem.. its *older* | 20:08 |
| holstein | bluefacered: it can be upgraded, and will be, by any upgrade means | 20:08 |
| bluefacered | ok | 20:08 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/587609/how-to-do-ubuntu-upgrade-14-04-to-14-04-2 | 20:09 |
| LAbot | Title: How to do Ubuntu upgrade 14.04 to 14.04.2 - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com) | 20:09 |
| holstein | or any official ubuntu documentation, etc.. | 20:09 |
| bluefacered | well no i know what automatic upgrade is | 20:09 |
| bluefacered | and sudo apt get update hehe | 20:09 |
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| bluefacered | i just wasnt sure if kx studio updates from the old version to the new whne you have an older brubred version | 20:10 |
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| bluefacered | i understand hehe] | 20:10 |
| bluefacered | burned* | 20:10 |
| holstein | the soures are self-contained, AFAIK | 20:11 |
| holstein | so, they are just basically "rolling" sources | 20:11 |
| bluefacered | ah ok | 20:11 |
| holstein | there are no new PPA's, or, new sources.. or a new .deb for new access to new sources | 20:11 |
| holstein | it'll just be, when a new package is there, you update to that new version | 20:11 |
| bluefacered | so then i if dl 14.04 will kx studio give an option to dl 14.04.02 or is falk not realsing this update yet | 20:12 |
| bluefacered | but i understand now | 20:13 |
| bluefacered | meaning the 14.04.02 new update is not ready yet | 20:13 |
| holstein | no | 20:14 |
| bluefacered | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/News/ | 20:14 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio News (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 20:14 |
| holstein | that updated iso may not be available, or ever coming | 20:14 |
| bluefacered | i dont understand | 20:14 |
| holstein | there may not be plans for a kxstudio iso that includes these updates | 20:15 |
| bluefacered | falk is not working on kx studio | 20:15 |
| holstein | i didnt say that | 20:15 |
| holstein | i said, there may not be an iso | 20:15 |
| bluefacered | oh | 20:15 |
| holstein | since, you download the current one, and upgrade, and get the *same* thing.. there may not be an iso created, or being created, or planning to be created | 20:15 |
| bluefacered | so then you mean it will stay 14.04 | 20:15 |
| holstein | bluefacered: ? | 20:15 |
| holstein | bluefacered: friend.. if you updated, you get the point release | 20:16 |
| holstein | thats *all* that is.. a point release | 20:16 |
| bluefacered | and he will update it whne its ready | 20:16 |
| bluefacered | yes that what im asking | 20:16 |
| holstein | 14.04 *is* 14.04.1 *is* 14.04.2.. the are just point releases | 20:16 |
| bluefacered | is the point realse out | 20:16 |
| holstein | they at the same.. just with newer software, that is in the same repos | 20:16 |
| holstein | no new sources.. | 20:16 |
| holstein | sure.. the point release for ubuntu *is* out | 20:16 |
| bluefacered | so those new kx studio features are still in development | 20:17 |
| holstein | and, if you download that iso, for the new ubuntu point release, you can add the kxstudio repos to it.. *or*, you can install kxstudio from the official iso, and update, and get the new point release | 20:17 |
| holstein | bluefacered: the new software and features just go in the sources | 20:17 |
| holstein | bluefacered: they dont change | 20:17 |
| holstein | there are no "14.04.2 sources".. its just the one place, falk puts new stuff.. | 20:18 |
| bluefacered | yes i know i mean can i get them as in is the point realse realsed by falk | 20:18 |
| bluefacered | ah ok | 20:18 |
| holstein | bluefacered: its not his release to make | 20:18 |
| bluefacered | htats whjat i was asking | 20:18 |
| holstein | the point release is just that.. its called that by ubuntu | 20:18 |
| bluefacered | i can see whay you were confused with what i was asking | 20:18 |
| holstein | its just *new* *stuff*.. *not* a new OS | 20:18 |
| holstein | same sources.. etc | 20:18 |
| holstein | *still* 14.04 | 20:19 |
| bluefacered | but there are new kx studio features | 20:19 |
| holstein | sure, and those are in the same sources.. | 20:19 |
| bluefacered | bingo | 20:19 |
| bluefacered | tha what 9 wasking | 20:19 |
| holstein | the sources that are added, and updated, all the time | 20:19 |
| bluefacered | hehe | 20:19 |
| holstein | bluefacered: again, there are no point release sources | 20:19 |
| holstein | bluefacered: just the one source, one place.. | 20:19 |
| bluefacered | well i was not asking about point realeases though | 20:20 |
| holstein | when falk updates, you get that... if you have the sources added.. either manually, or, added by installing the OS | 20:20 |
| bluefacered | just about kx studio development | 20:20 |
| bluefacered | AW | 20:20 |
| bluefacered | ok i get it now | 20:20 |
| holstein | bluefacered: dont make me copy and paste from above ;) | 20:20 |
| bluefacered | i lol ok i get it | 20:20 |
| holstein | bluefacered: you *are* asking about a point release iso.. and all im saying is, the end result of upgrading is the same | 20:20 |
| bluefacered | yep | 20:21 |
| holstein | they kxstudio developed software goes in the sources which dont change | 20:21 |
| bluefacered | meaning 14.04 upgrades to newer version | 20:21 |
| holstein | you dont do anthing to recieve falks point release updates in the point release sourcs.. since, there are no point release soruces | 20:21 |
| bluefacered | ther are no point realses | 20:21 |
| holstein | just thes same sourcers.. | 20:21 |
| bluefacered | because point realses are ubuntu | 20:21 |
| bluefacered | i understand | 20:22 |
| holstein | basically, that point release is just a new snapshot | 20:22 |
| bluefacered | i understand | 20:22 |
| bluefacered | ok | 20:22 |
| holstein | to make a new ISO, so, that its easier, when you want 14.04, from last week, installed, with the latest software, rather than, the 14.04 released in april of 2014.. | 20:22 |
| holstein | its just convenience.. not a new OS | 20:23 |
| bluefacered | i understand | 20:23 |
| holstein | though, most of the software is rev'd.. and different | 20:23 |
| holstein | security patches, etc.. | 20:23 |
| bluefacered | thing is i did dl that iso and it seemed to be incomplete at lease it seemd to be so im going to download 14.04 | 20:23 |
| holstein | now.. will a new iso be created and provided by falk? reflecting the current point release iso? i have no idea.. | 20:24 |
| bluefacered | you explain he was 'working' on it | 20:24 |
| holstein | what seemed incomplete? | 20:24 |
| holstein | just install, and update to the latest, and you have the same.. | 20:24 |
| bluefacered | it seemed to be missing muon | 20:24 |
| bluefacered | or a software updater | 20:24 |
| bluefacered | could not find it | 20:24 |
| holstein | "im missing muon" is *so* much more direct, than what has happend ;) | 20:25 |
| bluefacered | there was no way to update | 20:25 |
| bluefacered | lol | 20:25 |
| bluefacered | albert and costello | 20:25 |
| bluefacered | but yes | 20:25 |
| bluefacered | and also missing software updater | 20:25 |
| holstein | muon is provided in the default ubuntu sources | 20:26 |
| bluefacered | only synaptic was avaiable | 20:26 |
| holstein | i dont know that falk revs that, or not | 20:26 |
| holstein | bluefacered: what software updater? all ubuntu applications like that are in the default sources | 20:26 |
| holstein | just identify what you want, and install it, if you want/need it | 20:26 |
| bluefacered | ok | 20:26 |
| bluefacered | does 14.04 b | 20:27 |
| bluefacered | does b mean beta | 20:28 |
| bluefacered | for the latest kx studio | 20:28 |
| holstein | 14.04 was release in april of 2014 | 20:28 |
| bluefacered | whats the b mean | 20:28 |
| holstein | there is not latest 14.04.just the one thing | 20:28 |
| holstein | when you update, you are updated.. | 20:28 |
| bluefacered | ah ok because i can upgrade | 20:29 |
| bluefacered | yep | 20:29 |
| holstein | what B are you referring to? | 20:29 |
| bluefacered | on kx studio page | 20:29 |
| holstein | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Downloads | 20:29 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Downloads (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 20:29 |
| holstein | where? | 20:29 |
| bluefacered | the iso is called and downloads as 14.04b | 20:29 |
| holstein | bluefacered: where? | 20:30 |
| bluefacered | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Downloads | 20:30 |
| holstein | bluefacered: its a file.. i wouldnt over think it.. it gets a name | 20:30 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Downloads (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 20:30 |
| holstein | bluefacered: could be, there was an A, and thats B.. could be, he wanted to call them that, who knows | 20:31 |
| bluefacered | well i did over think it so what do i win? lol | 20:31 |
| holstein | This is an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS based Live-DVD, used to test-drive KXStudio and/or install it to your HDD. | 20:31 |
| holstein | It contains a snapshot of the KXStudio features as of May 7th, 2014 or 07/05/2014. It uses KDE4 as Desktop Environment. | 20:31 |
| holstein | ^ | 20:31 |
| holstein | thats the fact of what the files are.. | 20:31 |
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| bluefacered | i understand | 20:31 |
| bluefacered | also, since i did dl the 14.04.2 update from git ub | 20:33 |
| bluefacered | can i use this | 20:33 |
| bluefacered | or should i dl 14.04 i want to make sure that i that version falk realsed that may be or may not be realsed works | 20:34 |
| bluefacered | that iso from git hub was burned to dvd | 20:34 |
| bluefacered | git hub or source forge | 20:35 |
| bluefacered | but if that works then im not sure i need to bur anther iso | 20:35 |
| holstein | bluefacered: use what you like, friend | 20:35 |
| bluefacered | well i mean | 20:36 |
| holstein | bluefacered: why would you need to burn another? | 20:36 |
| bluefacered | because i thought that that latest 14.04.2 version falk realsed on linux musicans was incomplete | 20:37 |
| bluefacered | but it seems it not | 20:37 |
| bluefacered | thought ther are no point realses | 20:37 |
| holstein | i thought you stated "i understand" when i explained what was up with the point releases? | 20:37 |
| bluefacered | i do | 20:37 |
| holstein | if you download 14.04.2 of *literally* anything ubuntu based, and upgrade.. then you have the same as if you install from the stock 14.04 very first version | 20:38 |
| bluefacered | i just wasnt sure that falk himself may have not complete te data on that new point realse | 20:38 |
| holstein | so, what the difference? again, convenience | 20:38 |
| bluefacered | ok so i understanbd | 20:38 |
| holstein | if you are worried, midigate your worry | 20:38 |
| bluefacered | yes | 20:38 |
| bluefacered | kk | 20:38 |
| holstein | if you think "someone else provided the iso's i have" then, get the ones from the link i gave | 20:38 |
| bluefacered | wel then i have that iso:) | 20:38 |
| bluefacered | going install it | 20:39 |
| bluefacered | i got the iso here http://download.linuxaudio.org/kxstudio/ | 20:39 |
| LAbot | Title: Index of /kxstudio (at download.linuxaudio.org) | 20:39 |
| bluefacered | so i should be good | 20:40 |
| holstein | should be? | 20:40 |
| holstein | confirm the md5 sumds.. | 20:40 |
| holstein | sums* | 20:40 |
| bluefacered | idid | 20:40 |
| bluefacered | done | 20:40 |
| bluefacered | and burned | 20:40 |
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