Saturday, 2015-05-16

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autostaticfalktx: finally migrating to trusty ;)12:47
autostaticSTill thinking about setting something up for armhf?12:48
falktxsure, why not12:48
falktxdepends on what optimizations to use12:49
falktxautostatic: if you want to build packages, do it in trusty/14.0412:49
falktxjessie packages don't work on 14.04. but 14.04 packages work in jessie12:50
autostaticIn general?12:50
autostaticOr for armhf?12:50
falktxin general12:50
falktxautostatic: 10.04 is EOL, no more ppa builds12:50
autostaticOk12:50
autostaticYes I know12:51
falktxautostatic: I've changed the repo to require at least 14.04. announcement coming soon12:51
autostaticYes, I've already installed the latest kxstudio-repos package on my machines12:51
alexthebassistHello there. Does anyone know how can I control dry/wet levels in Carla Rack in realtime via MIDI CC? It seems that only Volume switch is controllable. I have no external keyboard, so I use a virtual one. It is capable of controlling eight parameters, namely: ModWheel (modulation wheel/fader which can be found on most of MIDI keyboards, I guess),  volume, expression, panning, chorus, sustain and sostenuto. I tried all of them, but only volume12:51
alexthebassistcontrol does change parameters. Can I reassign one of those controllers somehow?12:51
falktxsadly the ppas don't build for armhf directly12:51
falktxalexthebassist: you cannot change the internal params carla uses12:52
autostaticNot directly so via qemu?12:53
alexthebassistfalktx: well, so what should I do? I need to move dry/wet in real time12:53
falktxdry/wet is assigned to cc #2 breath12:53
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falktxmaybe there's some app/tool/plugin that allows to change midi ccs12:55
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falktxautostatic: we can ask for armhf builds on the ppas. but there's quite a few of them12:55
falktxand I'm not sure which target to optimize for12:56
falktxcubieboard? rasp-pi2 ?12:56
falktxperhaps the mod duo?12:56
alexthebassistfalktx: that makes sense. Thanks. What virtual keyboard is capable of sending this particular CC? I just want to record it into Ardour in order to automate one efffect which has no wet/dry switch at all. So I put it into Carla-Rack, assigned a control channel and came there since nothing I tried had any desirable effect12:56
falktxautostatic: non-optimized arm packages are no good.12:56
falktxthey run, but we want to get as much as possible from those boards12:57
falktxalexthebassist: can't you automate the ardour dry/wet control itself?12:57
alexthebassistfalktx: damn. There is no such thing in Ardour. The only control it adds to plugins is bypass switch which is not automatable, and it has nothing to do with what I am trying to achieve12:59
alexthebassistfalktx: the plugin itself has NO such control also12:59
alexthebassistfalktx: Carla Rack has only Freewheel automatable, which can only have values of 0 and 1  and is useless for me in my case13:01
falktxheh, freewheel should be hidden anyway13:02
falktxalexthebassist: can ardour be made to send midi-ccs ?13:02
falktxie, record some random midi-cc, change it to something else ?13:02
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alexthebassistfalktx: yes, volume switch changes were played back13:08
falktxcan you change that cc to something else after recording?13:09
alexthebassistfalktx: I recorded CCs in a MIDI track and sent events to Carla-Rack, it worked. But, as I said, only volume works13:10
falktxbut can you change that cc ?13:10
falktxafter recording13:10
falktxin ardour13:10
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alexthebassistfalktx: nope13:11
falktxdamn ardour13:12
falktxmaybe one of rgareus tools can do this13:12
falktxchange an incoming midi cc to another13:13
falktxthere is hope!13:13
falktx"MapCCChange one control message into another -- combine with scalecc to modify/scale the actual value."13:13
falktxalexthebassist: try the "MapCC" plugin before the one you're trying to change13:14
falktxalexthebassist: using 7 as cc-input, and 2 as cc-output it should do the trick13:15
falktxthe volume turns into breath, and the next plugin will automate dry/wet instead of volume13:15
alexthebassistfalktx: yes, it did! Thanks!13:16
falktxalexthebassist: I think you do a feature-request on ardour about this13:16
falktxthere should be some ways to draw and edit midi ccs13:17
alexthebassistfalktx: think so too, I don't fancy writing it all with a virtual KB and mouse and remapping it13:17
alexthebassistfalktx: but anyway, this works perfectly13:18
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rgareusthere are ways to draw and edit CCs.  they show up a standard automation.13:33
rgareusclick on the "A" button on the track header -> shows existing automation.13:33
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rgareusas for changing CCs. drobilla added a midi-trasformation  but I don't think it can change one control-command into another [yet]. it's mostly notes.13:37
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falktx`autostatic: ping17:44
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autostaticpong19:23
autostaticfalktx`: pong I mean ;)19:23
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falktx`autostatic: I just pushed an update to at1 plugin inside carla19:24
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falktx`autostatic: it should work better with multiple instances and saves the note-mask state19:24
falktx`autostatic: when you have time please give it a test19:24
* falktx` is trying to update the carla package19:24
autostaticOk, will give it a try19:25
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autostaticI'm still struggling a bit with Carla though, it's a different mindset as it doesn't have channels/tracks/buses19:26
falktx`autostatic: load the plugin in ardour or qtractor then19:27
falktx`at1 directly19:27
autostaticOk!19:29
falktx`alright, the carla package builds locally19:34
falktx`autostatic: if you attempt to build carla based on the old package you'll get conflicts19:35
falktx`autostatic: the zita-based plugins now use UIs in external process. so no chance crashing the host if they go down19:38
falktx`same with zynaddsubfx now19:38
autostaticGreat!19:39
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falktxautostatic: fyi the carla packages on kx repos are updated now. containing the new at1 plugin code22:45
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