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| pater`` | hey all. so the other day i booted up kxs, and all that works i s mouse movement | 04:57 |
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| holstein | pater``: try booting it now | 04:58 |
| pater`` | no clicks, o key commands, nothing. login pw works... and i know my l/r buttons works. i dont want to have to wipe the whole hdd...obviously | 04:58 |
| pater`` | its up | 04:59 |
| holstein | .g swtich to tty ubuntu | 05:00 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://askubuntu.com/questions/340243/how-do-i-change-back-to-my-x-session-gui-tty | 05:00 |
| LAbot | Title: shortcut keys - How do I change back to my X-session (GUI) tty? - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com) | 05:00 |
| holstein | try going to tty, pater`` ^ | 05:00 |
| holstein | look and see if you have an older kernel in your grub | 05:00 |
| holstein | look and see, via tty, if you can, if you have updates applied.. try another user.. try a live iso, and/or a known supported operating system on the hardware to make sure its not malfunctioning | 05:01 |
| holstein | test the ram and hard drive | 05:01 |
| holstein | make backups.. test those backups, and make sure you have them backed up | 05:02 |
| holstein | one should alwasy be prepared for when that hard drive becomes unable to be accessed, since, *all* will | 05:02 |
| pater`` | willindeed. woukld the hdd failig... um.. i guess tht last bit was sorta confusing since i gt a desktop and a mouse and such, and live isos dont work.. mwh dunno | 05:04 |
| pater`` | ty nd i will try what the damnded box will allow | 05:04 |
| holstein | pater``: so, your install, *and* live iso's dont work? | 05:06 |
| holstein | those things would make me thinkg memory, or mother board.. | 05:06 |
| holstein | anyways, you'll just have to test and isolate, and see what is going on | 05:07 |
| pater`` | right right. got ctrl alt f2 to access tty, gonna do some web searching- this is the kx chan, not linux 101! =P | 05:09 |
| holstein | ? | 05:10 |
| pater`` | ph well im not super great with linux and or unix based systems so im at the command line thinking... uhh what do i do | 05:11 |
| holstein | you dont need the command line for kxstudio | 05:12 |
| holstein | what you have is breakage, and you'll have to identify what is broken | 05:12 |
| holstein | if, as you are stating, you cant get live iso's to do what they once did, and the installed os is not working, then, that points to hardware issues | 05:12 |
| holstein | not sure what you are talking about with "this is not linux 101" | 05:13 |
| pater`` | im i guess i mean to expres i would feell dick-ish asking what are probably majorly basic questios. and not specific to this flavor of linux | 05:13 |
| holstein | dont worry about it | 05:13 |
| holstein | i dont think you have a linux issue at all.. i think you have failing hardware | 05:13 |
| holstein | though, you'll have to do some tests and confirm, or rule that out | 05:13 |
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| pater`` | i think you are corect, this box with kx has been through hell. i just dunno how to test it =/ gonna search for linux system ests via cmd line | 05:15 |
| holstein | you can use the live iso for the memory test | 05:15 |
| holstein | some bios's have tests.. you can use gsmartmon, *if* you can get into a live iso, to test the hard drive | 05:16 |
| holstein | what i typically do is, unplug the hard drive, and all other uneccessary hardware.. i'll then get *something*, literally *anything* booting | 05:16 |
| holstein | i like the ultimate boot cd.. | 05:16 |
| holstein | .g ubcd | 05:16 |
| thelonius | holstein: https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ | 05:16 |
| LAbot | Title: Ultimate Boot CD - Overview (at www.ultimatebootcd.com) | 05:16 |
| holstein | it has many tests, and utilities.. i'll start with memory.. taking all but one stick out, and testing them individually.. also, ruling out the ram slots as possible breakage | 05:17 |
| holstein | then, i'll move on to the hard drive.. | 05:17 |
| holstein | so on.. doing one thing at a time, as much as possible, til i see what causes what | 05:18 |
| pater`` | i grab that ubcd from this box , but my bdd/cd crive motor is dead - and using an ubuntu live cd via usb cd drive failed. was primary on boot list s o dont know why. will try the ubcd | 05:20 |
| pater`` | ty | 05:20 |
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| holstein | .g plop | 05:21 |
| thelonius | holstein: https://www.plop.at/ | 05:21 |
| LAbot | Title: Plop Website (at www.plop.at) | 05:21 |
| holstein | i also like plop, for allowing me to boot USB on hardware that doenst boot usb | 05:21 |
| holstein | but, at some point, you'll want the ability to create new bootable media, so, i would address that need.. external USB optical drive, or whatever.. borrowing one | 05:22 |
| pater`` | yeah i have one, an ubuntu live didnt work, just opened up revovery mode type stuff that only offered booting kx. nywa, fingers crossed! | 05:24 |
| holstein | thats why i like to test with the hard drive unplugged | 05:25 |
| holstein | so, if i need to force restart, or, if its bad ram, i *know* i wont damage the hard drive while im testing, and getting to the bottom of things | 05:25 |
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| pater`` | :D i like to pop it out too. usually for security reasons, but hats a solid way to know whats what or whats not what as you said! | 05:28 |
| holstein | no need to "pop it out".. i just unplug the cable to it | 05:29 |
| holstein | unless its a laptop, thenb, that can be more challenging.. anyways, i typically leave it in the desktop til i have a reason to pull it | 05:29 |
| holstein | cheers and good luck.. i go to sleep now.. | 05:30 |
| pater`` | gotcha. and yeah, its a laptop. and i7 but still imo a toshiTba =P | 05:30 |
| pater`` | night! | 05:30 |
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